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Old 11-06-2012, 11:06 AM   #61
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If that's what he's saying, then i absolutely agree.

His SFW reign contained 3 title defences. One was against a 14 fight novice, the other against a bloke with a 14-4 record and the final one was against a shot, injured Nicky Cook who had a ****ed back. That is horrific. I'd be appalled at that if it were a Commonwealth title reign.
No one's pretending it was a HOF reign but if you look at the names on the first page and consider he won it from an excellent champion who he was extremely lucky to get a shot at,then to say Burns is one of Britain's worst world champions is at best laughable and at worst,ridiculous.
Who are you comparing him to,Carl Froch?
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:21 PM   #62
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I'm surprised Bruno hasn't been mentioned yet.
I was ten when he got the title. Everyone was so chuffed for him. But I remember he was always in the papers and they were going OTT on his win.

He totally bottled it against Tyson.

Maybe worst 'defence' ever.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:31 PM   #63
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Burns at lightweight has been a solid reign, its alright slagging mitchell off now and saying its obvious burns would win and the same against katsidids, but then why hasnt eveyrone made a ton off burns? because the bookies didnt have it that obvious. his SFW reign was awful, but he won it off a good champion so that gives him a bit of a pass in terms of the worst reign ever
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:34 PM   #64
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No one's pretending it was a HOF reign but if you look at the names on the first page and consider he won it from an excellent champion who he was extremely lucky to get a shot at,then to say Burns is one of Britain's worst world champions is at best laughable and at worst,ridiculous.
Who are you comparing him to,Carl Froch?
To me, 'reign' implies WHEN a fighter is champion, not who they beat to gain the belt, this meaning that the Martonez fight wouldn't count in this thread. The Martinez win is very good, for sure, but his 130 reign was horrific. Literally awful, and one of the worst ever by a British fighter.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:00 PM   #65
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im gonna say khan as well.
off me head his fights were
salita,nuff said
malliaggi........prob his best win
maidana....... proved not to be that good
judah.........washed up,and not top class anyhow
and the other 2
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #66
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im gonna say khan as well.
off me head his fights were
salita,nuff said
malliaggi........prob his best win
maidana....... proved not to be that good
judah.........washed up,and not top class anyhow
and the other 2
FFS.

Salita was an unbeaten fighter, Malignaggi is a respected world champion, Maidana was a feared puncher whom many thought Khan would 'avoid' and Judah was supposedly revitalised under Whittaker and a reigning world champion.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:12 PM   #67
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FFS.

Salita was an unbeaten fighter, Malignaggi is a respected world champion, Maidana was a feared puncher whom many thought Khan would 'avoid' and and a reigning world champion.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #68
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Really? Lumumba was that highly regarded at the time? I know he beat Ratliff but never knew he was that highly thought of.
Remember it is in context of the 1980's Cruiserweight division; the so called 'Bastard' division.

The presumption was DeLeon was calling it a day; the best Europe seemingly had to offer was Sammy Reeson and a former Journeyman Heavyweight (McCrory), and that was it. Thus it was fair, if you were American, to assume Lumumba was probably the best of a shockingly bad lot.

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Old 11-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #69
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Burns at lightweight has been a solid reign, its alright slagging mitchell off now and saying its obvious burns would win and the same against katsidids, but then why hasnt eveyrone made a ton off burns? because the bookies didnt have it that obvious. his SFW reign was awful, but he won it off a good champion so that gives him a bit of a pass in terms of the worst reign ever
agreed mate.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:34 PM   #70
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And Paul Hodkinson!
Beat Davison in an upset too...

As I said amongst WBO reigns, there is a clear winner/loser: Eamonn Loughran.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:52 PM   #71
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Frank Bruno.

Owned in his first defense against a Tyson virtually straight out of prison. Collapsed like a house of cards - poor showing.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:56 PM   #72
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Frank Bruno.

Owned in his first defense against a Tyson virtually straight out of prison. Collapsed like a house of cards - poor showing.
But beat McCall, who had taken Lewis' '0'. Sure McCall was hardly the greatest of all time, but compared to some British wins that gained titles, particularly WBO belts, a victory over Oliver was almost Turpin/Robinsonesque...
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:03 PM   #73
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The thread is about reigns, not initial victory. How would you judge the reign of Buster Douglas?
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:09 PM   #74
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This thread is retarded.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:18 PM   #75
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The thread is about reigns, not initial victory. How would you judge the reign of Buster Douglas?
OK, fair point. Bruno went into a Tyson rematch (amazingly with hindsight) a live underdog. He helped create a huge British sporting event (SKY's First PPV), he brought of thousands of fans with him to the USA. So it could be argued Tyson/BrunoII, no matter what the result, is going to top Paul Weir beating a Lindi Memani or Chris Pyatt beating Hugo Corti and Mark Cameron...
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