Sky Sports p4p list...........

knighty · 11-07-2012, 03:26 PM

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Pretty much agree apart from alverez being in there. Kid hasnt had a career defining fight yet. Potential ,yes , but not yet. Beat cotto then fair enough. Froch should be at least ten imo.

achillesthegreat · 11-07-2012, 04:01 PM

Looks okay apart from Wlad, Bradley, Alvarez. Wlads a heavyweight and a big one at that, as skilled as he is its almost impossible to gauge his P4P skills or qualities. If Brad Pac was close then sure but everyone thought he lost so a horrible decision doesn't get him in it. Alvarez needs to actually fight someone like Cotto, Floyd, Pac, Martinez etc So many fights, with so many big names around him but nothing of real note.

dftaylor · 11-07-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by knighty

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Pretty much agree apart from alverez being in there. Kid hasnt had a career defining fight yet. Potential ,yes , but not yet. Beat cotto then fair enough. Froch should be at least ten imo.

You can't put Alvarez in and not Froch, but I wouldn't have either, TBH.

Bill C84 · 11-07-2012, 04:12 PM

All in all, thats quite a shit list.

Primadonna Kool · 11-07-2012, 04:13 PM

Are you trying to tell me Manny Pac, who fights like he is semi-retarded is more skilled than Wladimir Kiltschko..?

David Haye is more skilled than Manny Pac, if you want to bring up the whole weight issue thing.

David Haye is fighting guys out weighing him by 2-3 stone on average.

Manny Pac even though he is on steroids, has to catch weight fighters all the time.

Smoggy7188 · 11-07-2012, 04:13 PM

Alvarez in the top ten of a p4p is crazy, he has beaten a faded Sugar Shane, blown up light-middleweights and kermit. Hardly p4p credentials.

Bill C84 · 11-07-2012, 04:15 PM

Marquez at 7th pisses me off, that's cluesless.

Beeston Brawler · 11-07-2012, 04:17 PM

That's a brutal list.

Martinez is horrendously overrated at #3 for starters.

1. Floyd
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Pacquiao
5. Donaire
6. Wlad
7. Martinez

The last three can be whoever you want from a dozen or so... but those 7 are pretty solid IMO.

bam bam · 11-07-2012, 04:21 PM

Cotto and Canelo should not be on that list.

Primadonna Kool · 11-07-2012, 04:22 PM

I don't understand why Heavyweight fighters are discriminated on.

Anybody that knows boxing can clearly see from a technical point of view, that Manny Pac is not on Wladimir Kiltschko's level.

Why on earth is Andre Ward in there, what's he done...?

Why the **** is Marquez still relevant..? He's done nothing at 140/147, he moves up afew pounds and is made out to be a complete mug against Floyd Mayweather.

David Haye is fighting guys 2-3 stone heavier than himself, surely that takes allot more talent and ability than fighting somebody who gains a little bit more water weight than you on fight night.

Pound for pound rankings have always been aload of shit, and the only people that are bothered about them are clueless retarded people.

El Greeno · 11-07-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeston Brawler

That's a brutal list.

Martinez is horrendously overrated at #3 for starters.

1. Floyd
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Pacquiao
5. Donaire
6. Wlad
7. Martinez

The last three can be whoever you want from a dozen or so... but those 7 are pretty solid IMO.

I know trying to classify exactly what 'p4p' means is pretty futile but I would have thought Martinez should get some credit for fighting as an undersized MW this whole time, certainly enough to put him above Wlad at least.

Bill C84 · 11-07-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Beeston Brawler

That's a brutal list.

Martinez is horrendously overrated at #3 for starters.

1. Floyd
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Pacquiao
5. Donaire
6. Wlad
7. Martinez

The last three can be whoever you want from a dozen or so... but those 7 are pretty solid IMO.

Id probably have Martinez over Wlad, other than that it's hard to argue with that list.

dftaylor · 11-07-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bam bam

Cotto and Canelo should not be on that list.

Leave Cotto alone!

achillesthegreat · 11-07-2012, 04:45 PM

Froch should be quite high P4P, certainly over Bradley, Alvarex and Wlad. He's beat em all, lost one close fight and one fight to the number 2 p4p and possibly future number 1.

wallworkjake123 · 11-07-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by achillesthegreat

Froch should be quite high P4P, certainly over Bradley, Alvarex and Wlad. He's beat em all, lost one close fight and one fight to the number 2 p4p and possibly future number 1.

Froch beat Bradley, Alvarez and Wlad?

11-07-2012, 03:26 PM	#1
knighty Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: land of my fathers Posts: 550 vCash: 1000	Sky Sports p4p list........... [URL]***********1.skysports.com/boxing/news/11067/8194068/World-P4P-rankings[/URL] Pretty much agree apart from alverez being in there. Kid hasnt had a career defining fight yet. Potential ,yes , but not yet. Beat cotto then fair enough. Froch should be at least ten imo.
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achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,047 vCash: 1000	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... Looks okay apart from Wlad, Bradley, Alvarez. Wlads a heavyweight and a big one at that, as skilled as he is its almost impossible to gauge his P4P skills or qualities. If Brad Pac was close then sure but everyone thought he lost so a horrible decision doesn't get him in it. Alvarez needs to actually fight someone like Cotto, Floyd, Pac, Martinez etc So many fights, with so many big names around him but nothing of real note.
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Primadonna Kool Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 9,800 vCash: 1000	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... Are you trying to tell me Manny Pac, who fights like he is semi-retarded is more skilled than Wladimir Kiltschko..? David Haye is more skilled than Manny Pac, if you want to bring up the whole weight issue thing. David Haye is fighting guys out weighing him by 2-3 stone on average. Manny Pac even though he is on steroids, has to catch weight fighters all the time.
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Smoggy7188 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,899 vCash: 500	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... Alvarez in the top ten of a p4p is crazy, he has beaten a faded Sugar Shane, blown up light-middleweights and kermit. Hardly p4p credentials.
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Bill C84 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kent. UK. Posts: 5,176 vCash: 81	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... Marquez at 7th pisses me off, that's cluesless.
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Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 23,346 vCash: 75	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... That's a brutal list. Martinez is horrendously overrated at #3 for starters. 1. Floyd 2. Marquez 3. Ward 4. Pacquiao 5. Donaire 6. Wlad 7. Martinez The last three can be whoever you want from a dozen or so... but those 7 are pretty solid IMO.
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bam bam Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,784 vCash: 500	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... Cotto and Canelo should not be on that list.
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Primadonna Kool Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 9,800 vCash: 1000	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... I don't understand why Heavyweight fighters are discriminated on. Anybody that knows boxing can clearly see from a technical point of view, that Manny Pac is not on Wladimir Kiltschko's level. Why on earth is Andre Ward in there, what's he done...? Why the ** is Marquez still relevant..? He's done nothing at 140/147, he moves up afew pounds and is made out to be a complete mug against Floyd Mayweather. David Haye is fighting guys 2-3 stone heavier than himself, surely that takes allot more talent and ability than fighting somebody who gains a little bit more water weight than you on fight night. Pound for pound rankings have always been aload of shit, and the only people that are bothered about them are clueless retarded people.**
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achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,047 vCash: 1000	Re: Sky Sports p4p list........... Froch should be quite high P4P, certainly over Bradley, Alvarex and Wlad. He's beat em all, lost one close fight and one fight to the number 2 p4p and possibly future number 1.
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