Wach vs the top Heavies

[Porgeous Porge]

Wach jumped from Tye Fields to Wlad Klitschko

that is one hell of a giant leap in comp, Wach just seemed far too slow to deal with Wlad and also lacked experience

but he did take big punches and i dont know who out there could stop him or even prevent him from coming forward, he also caught Wlad who is faster than many give credit to

anyway i would like to see him in vs Arreola, Stiverne, Helenius, and Mitchell because i think he would be able to take their punch and keep coming and i dont think those guys are quick enough or skilled enough to do what Wlad did defensively

do you think the top heavies would win with the same ease Wlad did or would Wach be able to beat or hang with the other top guys in the division

[damian38]

Arreola declined a fight with Wach a while ago

[OBCboxer]

That's where I feel Wach belongs; with the Arreolas and Stivernes of the division. He would get beat by Mitchell due to his lack of athleticism which is a big reason why he'll never take the leap from the second tier into the top shelf of the division.

[Porgeous Porge]

Originally Posted by OBCboxer

That's where I feel Wach belongs; with the Arreolas and Stivernes of the division. He would get beat by Mitchell due to his lack of athleticism which is a big reason why he'll never take the leap from the second tier into the top shelf of the division.

i dont know if Mitchell definitely wins vs Wach, I think Mitchell would have a tough time hurting him if Wlad couldnt and i dont know if he is skilled or quick enough to avoid Wach's punches

also Mitchell has not really been in deep water while being pressed, and if Wach kept coming vs Wlad i think he would keep coming vs Mitchell

[Porgeous Porge]

Originally Posted by damian38

Arreola declined a fight with Wach a while ago

Arreola is avoiding tough fights til the WBC hands him a title shot

[Scar]

Can many cruise around the ring without throwing anything in return with a broken toe?, that's the real question.

[turbina]

Wach will always be a limited fighter. There are somethings past a certain age that you cannot improve on much. Athleticism and dynamics / speed are some of those things, and they happen to be what Wach is in need of badly. He started boxing far too late in his life, and finally got good leadership and started taking it seriously even later. There is only so much he can improve at this point, and those two things which are critical against the tip top opposition are just out of his reach at this point.

However he can give a tough fight to the Arreolas of the division. He is one tough motherfucker.

[v2k987]

Wach would beat arreola.

[OBCboxer]

Originally Posted by Porgeous Porge

i dont know if Mitchell definitely wins vs Wach, I think Mitchell would have a tough time hurting him if Wlad couldnt and i dont know if he is skilled or quick enough to avoid Wach's punches

also Mitchell has not really been in deep water while being pressed, and if Wach kept coming vs Wlad i think he would keep coming vs Mitchell

Mitchell's a pretty tough fighter himself and would be much more active in a fight like this. Wach would certainly challenge him but because of his massive size and his will to take boatloads of punishment.

[Porgeous Porge]

Originally Posted by Scar

Can many cruise around the ring without throwing anything in return with a broken toe?, that's the real question.

i dont wanna make this a Wlad vs Haye thread, notice how i didnt put Haye as an opponent i think Wach would be interesting against

[derrick]

Price would KO Wach in two rounds.

[Slyk]

Wach vs. Arreola would be a good slugfest. Arreola with the better skills, Wach with the better chin/size.

[macp1]

I think Wach would lose every round except one against every top fighter in the division, and beat every single one of them but Wlad or Vitali.