Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' - Page 10

red cobra · 12-04-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Red Cobra,

Little known fact, that Jose 'Mantequilla' Napoles was 'not' the #1 WBA Welterweight
when he fought Welterweight Champion - Curtis Cokes.

California Fight Promoter - George Parnassus (The Forum) loved Jose Napoles, and saved
him from being an obscure fighter in Mexico, despite being the Top-Rated Light-Welterweight.

$80,000 got Curtis Cokes to The Forum.

Didn't know that Pepe...who was the #1?

Senor Pepe' · 12-04-2012, 10:39 AM

Red Cobra,

As per the end of February 1969 Ratings....... #1 was Ernie 'Indian Red' Lopez
following his TKO 9 over #1 Raul Soriano in January 1969.

April 18, 1969

Despite his age, Curtis Cokes was at the 'pinnacle' of his career. Curtis was a smart
and talented boxer-puncher, who was a 'natural welterweight'. Curtis had 'natural' size over
the smaller-compact Jose Napoles.

Since losing to 'rugged' Eddie Pace on August 27, 1964 - Curtis had gone 18-1-1 (11 KO's)
in 4 years, 8 months.

On the other hand, most will say that 'Mantequilla' was a little past his prime when he got into the
ring with Curtis Cokes. Jose Napoles was a 'natural' 140 lb. boxer, who's prime was between
mid-1963 thru 1967 (ages 23 thru 27 1/2).

Since April 27, 1963 - when he lost a 'close' 10-Round Decision to Alfredo Urbina, 'Mantequilla' had
gone 33-1-0 (29 KO's) in 6 years of ring time.

Senor Pepe' · 12-04-2012, 04:12 PM

April 17, 1969

'Championship Bout A Toss-Up'

Champion - Curtis Cokes who opened up as a slight-favorite, has
seen the money swing back towards the Challenger - Jose Napoles,
making the Championship Bout a 'Toss Up' for Friday Night.

The Champion - Curtis Cokes from Dallas, Texas has never seen
Jose Napoles fight before.

Curtis Cokes, 'I have only seen Jose Napoles fight on film, and that
from a film reel with a pool of fighters. There was not much I could tell,
other than he looked like he could move fairly well.'

red cobra · 12-04-2012, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Red Cobra,

As per the end of February 1969 Ratings....... #1 was Ernie 'Indian Red' Lopez
following his TKO 9 over #1 Raul Soriano in January 1969.

April 18, 1969

Despite his age, Curtis Cokes was at the 'pinnacle' of his career. Curtis was a smart
and talented boxer-puncher, who was a 'natural welterweight'. Curtis had 'natural' size over
the smaller-compact Jose Napoles.

Since losing to 'rugged' Eddie Pace on August 27, 1964 - Curtis had gone 18-1-1 (11 KO's)
in 4 years, 8 months.

On the other hand, most will say that 'Mantequilla' was a little past his prime when he got into the
ring with Curtis Cokes. Jose Napoles was a 'natural' 140 lb. boxer, who's prime was between
mid-1963 thru 1967 (ages 23 thru 27 1/2).

Since April 27, 1963 - when he lost a 'close' 10-Round Decision to Alfredo Urbina, 'Mantequilla' had
gone 33-1-0 (29 KO's) in 6 years of ring time.

God help the lightweight and junior welterweight champions of the mid to late 60's if they had given Napoles a deserved crack at their titles.

Senor Pepe' · 12-04-2012, 04:44 PM

Mr. Red Cobra,

Curtis Cokes had opened up as a 10-6 Betting-Favorite over Jose Napoles.

But two-days before the fight on Wednesday, April 17th the odds dropped
to 'Even'.

Doug Lord, the Manager for Curtis Cokes, 'We have never seen Jose Napoles fight before,
other than a spotty film reel pool. We know he's a very fine fighter with a good
punch. My fighter is prepared, and has only been 'stopped' once before in his career, in
a very bizarre fight in Philadelphia in 1964.

Jose Napoles, 'The Champion is very good. A very smart fighter, who will make
you pay for mistakes.'

Senor Pepe' · 12-04-2012, 07:39 PM

Red Cobra,

The 'odds' moved back towards Curtis Cokes just before fight time, as he
was installed as the 10-8 Betting-Favorite.

The 'skinny' was that Jose was 'too small' for Curtis, and would be vulnerable to
the Champion's sharp left jabs, and powerful right hand counter-punches.

Fight Promoter, George Parnassus stated that it was possible for the 'two fighters'
to receive a total fight purse of $120,000.

With $96,000 for the Champion, and $24,000 for the Challenger.

red cobra · 12-04-2012, 11:10 PM

Cokes was an established champion. Looked like he was on a roll and getting better with time. Napoles' two dominations of Cokes was massive IMO.

Senor Pepe' · 12-05-2012, 07:50 AM

April 1969 'weigh-in'

Curtis Cokes, 'All I have to do, is get off first and not let Napoles
get into a rhythm. If I can keep him at the end of my punches, I
should have no problem catching him with my hard punches later in
the fight. I expect a hard fight tonight, because he's a very good
fighter.'

red cobra · 12-05-2012, 12:57 PM

Just look at my avatar to see what Coke's face looked like after the bout. This is one of those fights..the Sanchez-Lopez bouts included, where the rematch was almost identical to the first bout. Basilio-DeMarco and of course, Liston-Patterson also come to mind. Sounds like a thread idea, dosen't it?

12-04-2012, 10:39 AM	#137
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' Red Cobra, As per the end of February 1969 Ratings....... #1 was Ernie 'Indian Red' Lopez following his TKO 9 over #1 Raul Soriano in January 1969. April 18, 1969 Despite his age, Curtis Cokes was at the 'pinnacle' of his career. Curtis was a smart and talented boxer-puncher, who was a 'natural welterweight'. Curtis had 'natural' size over the smaller-compact Jose Napoles. Since losing to 'rugged' Eddie Pace on August 27, 1964 - Curtis had gone 18-1-1 (11 KO's) in 4 years, 8 months. On the other hand, most will say that 'Mantequilla' was a little past his prime when he got into the ring with Curtis Cokes. Jose Napoles was a 'natural' 140 lb. boxer, who's prime was between mid-1963 thru 1967 (ages 23 thru 27 1/2). Since April 27, 1963 - when he lost a 'close' 10-Round Decision to Alfredo Urbina, 'Mantequilla' had gone 33-1-0 (29 KO's) in 6 years of ring time. Last edited by Senor Pepe'; 12-04-2012 at 11:28 AM.
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12-04-2012, 04:12 PM	#138
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' April 17, 1969 'Championship Bout A Toss-Up' Champion - Curtis Cokes who opened up as a slight-favorite, has seen the money swing back towards the Challenger - Jose Napoles, making the Championship Bout a 'Toss Up' for Friday Night. The Champion - Curtis Cokes from Dallas, Texas has never seen Jose Napoles fight before. Curtis Cokes, 'I have only seen Jose Napoles fight on film, and that from a film reel with a pool of fighters. There was not much I could tell, other than he looked like he could move fairly well.'
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12-04-2012, 04:44 PM	#140
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' Mr. Red Cobra, Curtis Cokes had opened up as a 10-6 Betting-Favorite over Jose Napoles. But two-days before the fight on Wednesday, April 17th the odds dropped to 'Even'. Doug Lord, the Manager for Curtis Cokes, 'We have never seen Jose Napoles fight before, other than a spotty film reel pool. We know he's a very fine fighter with a good punch. My fighter is prepared, and has only been 'stopped' once before in his career, in a very bizarre fight in Philadelphia in 1964. Jose Napoles, 'The Champion is very good. A very smart fighter, who will make you pay for mistakes.'
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12-04-2012, 07:39 PM	#141
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' Red Cobra, The 'odds' moved back towards Curtis Cokes just before fight time, as he was installed as the 10-8 Betting-Favorite. The 'skinny' was that Jose was 'too small' for Curtis, and would be vulnerable to the Champion's sharp left jabs, and powerful right hand counter-punches. Fight Promoter, George Parnassus stated that it was possible for the 'two fighters' to receive a total fight purse of $120,000. With $96,000 for the Champion, and $24,000 for the Challenger. Last edited by Senor Pepe'; 12-04-2012 at 07:58 PM.
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12-04-2012, 11:10 PM	#142
red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,206 vCash: 1000	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' Cokes was an established champion. Looked like he was on a roll and getting better with time. Napoles' two dominations of Cokes was massive IMO.
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12-05-2012, 07:50 AM	#143
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' April 1969 'weigh-in' Curtis Cokes, 'All I have to do, is get off first and not let Napoles get into a rhythm. If I can keep him at the end of my punches, I should have no problem catching him with my hard punches later in the fight. I expect a hard fight tonight, because he's a very good fighter.'
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12-05-2012, 12:57 PM	#144
red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,206 vCash: 1000	Re: Jose Napoles 'The Mark of Brilliance' Just look at my avatar to see what Coke's face looked like after the bout. This is one of those fights..the Sanchez-Lopez bouts included, where the rematch was almost identical to the first bout. Basilio-DeMarco and of course, Liston-Patterson also come to mind. Sounds like a thread idea, dosen't it?
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