Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best?

Russell · 02-02-2008, 09:30 PM

Jack Johnson seemed stupidly good at this, even when outweighed 20 pounds by Jeffries.

He was bending Jeffries arms behind his back.

good right hand · 02-02-2008, 09:41 PM

great post,

as far as effective punching in a clinch, the best fighter that i have ever seen as far as clinch control and effectiveness is bernard hopkins,

he actually "hurts" his opponents in the clinch (meaning that they buckle or become wobbled)

duran and hagler where great too and one guy that i thought was very unlikely but very good in a clinch is pernell whitaker.

JohnThomas1 · 02-02-2008, 09:43 PM

Hopkins is fantastic.

Russell · 02-02-2008, 10:49 PM

Duran was amazing in the clinch.

He'd just close in, put his head in your chest and break you down.

And he didn't have to hit and hold, tie you up and then punch on his way out...

He just closed the gap and tore people apart on the inside and they couldn't retaliate...

No idea how he did it.

rekcutnevets · 02-02-2008, 11:20 PM

How about Chavez? I don't recall him being that easy to clinch, and I recall seeing him elbow out of attempts many times. I don't mean an illegal elbow strike, I mean blocking the attempted clinch by spreading his elbows wide.

Stopping your opponent from clinching has to be an important part of clinch control.

The Whaler · 02-03-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Jack Johnson seemed stupidly good at this, even when outweighed 20 pounds by Jeffries.

He was bending Jeffries arms behind his back.

In his prime, Jeffries was also amazing in the clinch.

zivic1941 · 02-03-2008, 09:00 AM

Agree on Johnson.

good right hand · 02-03-2008, 04:18 PM

i think sammy angott was legendary in the clinch as well.

markedwardscott · 02-24-2008, 09:19 AM

Johnson and Ali

ChrisPontius · 02-24-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

He was bending Jeffries arms behind his back.

During which round can i see him do that?

Russell · 02-24-2008, 02:53 PM

Not sure, honestly.

It was on a show called "Tyson's Heavyweight Rivals" where he evaluated how he felt classic fighters would do against him alongside some other guy.

He was in awe of Johnson's strength and commented on the arm bending as the segment of it was played.

mcvey · 02-25-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by markedwardscott

Johnson and Ali

I second that!

02-02-2008, 09:30 PM	#1
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? Jack Johnson seemed stupidly good at this, even when outweighed 20 pounds by Jeffries. He was bending Jeffries arms behind his back.
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good right hand Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Go to the body... there's organs in there Posts: 953 vCash: 1000	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? great post, as far as effective punching in a clinch, the best fighter that i have ever seen as far as clinch control and effectiveness is bernard hopkins, he actually "hurts" his opponents in the clinch (meaning that they buckle or become wobbled) duran and hagler where great too and one guy that i thought was very unlikely but very good in a clinch is pernell whitaker.
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JohnThomas1 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 12,184 vCash: 1000	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? Hopkins is fantastic.
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Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? Duran was amazing in the clinch. He'd just close in, put his head in your chest and break you down. And he didn't have to hit and hold, tie you up and then punch on his way out... He just closed the gap and tore people apart on the inside and they couldn't retaliate... No idea how he did it.
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rekcutnevets Black Sash East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Location: InYourMouth, NC Posts: 6,541 vCash: 1000	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? How about Chavez? I don't recall him being that easy to clinch, and I recall seeing him elbow out of attempts many times. I don't mean an illegal elbow strike, I mean blocking the attempted clinch by spreading his elbows wide. Stopping your opponent from clinching has to be an important part of clinch control.
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zivic1941 Journeyman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 91 vCash: 1000	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? Agree on Johnson.
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good right hand Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Go to the body... there's organs in there Posts: 953 vCash: 1000	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? i think sammy angott was legendary in the clinch as well.
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markedwardscott Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 585 vCash: 1000	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? Johnson and Ali
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02-24-2008, 02:53 PM	#11
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Controlling Men In The Clinch - The Best? Not sure, honestly. It was on a show called "Tyson's Heavyweight Rivals" where he evaluated how he felt classic fighters would do against him alongside some other guy. He was in awe of Johnson's strength and commented on the arm bending as the segment of it was played.
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