Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,khan) - Page 4

box4life11 · 11-15-2012, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MollyWhop

Garcia is the man.

#CrispyLeft

You and Garcia both know what would happen in that fight.

box4life11 · 11-15-2012, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by weegriffin

I think Garcia is number 1 with a knock out win over Amir Khan. Amir Khan although he doesn't have all that good of a chin beat Kotelnik ( many feel he was the first to beat Alexander), Maidana, Malignaggi and Judah.

ajose was better then all them guys

box4life11 · 11-15-2012, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Redondo5

Matthyse v Garcia = Matthyse by Brutality
Matthyse v Khan = Matthyse by Fatality

I would feel bad for khan in this fight it would be like fucken Jason coming at him lol

anj · 11-15-2012, 06:25 AM

Come on this is pathetic. Everyone overrates Matthyse. He's just fought a whole bunch of bums and gets far because of his KO power. Any good fighter who can handle punchers will school Matthyse.

lewishamboy · 11-15-2012, 07:55 AM

Marquez is neither the best or most avoided fighter at 140

lewishamboy · 11-15-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by anj

Come on this is pathetic. Everyone overrates Matthyse. He's just fought a whole bunch of bums and gets far because of his KO power. Any good fighter who can handle punchers will school Matthyse.

Tell that to Olusegun or Alexander...but yeh I agree with you to some extent

elchivito · 11-15-2012, 08:39 AM

You can have a case for Lucas or Danny. Those who felt Khan was the top dawg at 140 side with Garcia. Those who think Lucas in reality really still is undefeated and robbed vs Judah and Alexander side with him. I think Alexander is as good as Khan. I have Mathysse #1 140lber, but not by much. Mathysse vs. Garcia I think a battle, perhaps even FOTY many want to see between the 2 destroyers.

thewinfella · 11-15-2012, 09:08 AM

What i like about Matthyse is his application, he's an intelligent stalker, yes he takes shots but nothing that clean, and he packs, he's got that natural heavy hands look to him

Is he the best at 140? im not sure

Marquez is the best fighter in the division i think everyone can agree on that, after him comes Matthyse and a host of others, if Tim Bradley is a WW now for good then i feel id have little choice but to name Matthyse as the #2 in the division, he's better than Danny Garcia IMHO, and if the two fought i think Matthyse would walk through him TBH

Barrera · 11-15-2012, 09:22 AM

I think its out of matthyse and rios
Until they fight i cantcrown a king

Garcia needs to fight one of them (or hell just fight someone alive...)

str1 · 11-15-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thewinfella

What i like about Matthyse is his application, he's an intelligent stalker, yes he takes shots but nothing that clean, and he packs, he's got that natural heavy hands look to him

Is he the best at 140? im not sure

Marquez is the best fighter in the division i think everyone can agree on that, after him comes Matthyse and a host of others, if Tim Bradley is a WW now for good then i feel id have little choice but to name Matthyse as the #2 in the division, he's better than Danny Garcia IMHO, and if the two fought i think Matthyse would walk through him TBH

Forget Marquez, he is not going to fight any JrWW other than Manny. Marquez is looking for his retirement check and if his 4th fight with Manny is close/controversial and sells,expect a 5th fight and farewell on both.

The fight that needs to be made at JrWW is Matthysse vs Garcia to determine the best JrWW. Rios is not even part of the equation because of the TR/GBP feud.

Beatle · 11-15-2012, 10:27 AM

Depends on the outcome of Garcia vs Judah.

DDDUUDDDEE · 11-15-2012, 11:20 AM

No one just "walks through" Garcia, Matthysse is perhaps even more overrated than Maidana was a few year ago.

Box702 · 11-15-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DDDUUDDDEE

No one just "walks through" Garcia, Matthysse is perhaps even more overrated than Maidana was a few year ago.

How so?He's got 30 ko's knocked both down judah/alexander & his only 2 losses are split decisions to guys in their hometown.That's far from the truth it's actually the opposite.He's fought judah,alexander,soto,ajose & is willing to fight anybody overrated?wtf?How?.Garcia fought inflated featherweight 35 yr Morales 2x & china chin khan who got beat worse already(50 sec by prescottt).Rios got gift of the year vs abril & was down 4-2 before the ref stopped the fight.Peterson beat khan in controversial dec & if that wasn't enough his testosterone level was too high.Khan just got stopped silly again in 4 rounds & the rugged maidana moved up to 147lb in order to avoid his countrymen Lucas.Marquez is fighting pac & has never ensued who he wants next or if he's retiring, am I missing something?Don't think so but you sure are.

Doc · 11-15-2012, 09:51 PM

Mathysse has everything to make it big but a fanbase should rock the Mexican colors ill proudly add him to our roster, FUCKING argentiness not supporting.this beast in numbers is shameful.

Counterclock · 11-15-2012, 09:57 PM

Matthysse is 30 years old and in his prime, while Garcia is 24 years old and still improving.

I feel we've seen Matthysse at his best while Garcia still has years to go.

It really depends on when they face each other. The sooner for Matthysse the better.

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anj Fuck The Judges ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Durham/Essex, England Posts: 2,005 vCash: 300	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh Come on this is pathetic. Everyone overrates Matthyse. He's just fought a whole bunch of bums and gets far because of his KO power. Any good fighter who can handle punchers will school Matthyse.
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lewishamboy Styles Impetuous ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LDN Posts: 4,138 vCash: 2000	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh Marquez is neither the best or most avoided fighter at 140
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elchivito master betty East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: section 8 Posts: 13,618 vCash: 130	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh You can have a case for Lucas or Danny. Those who felt Khan was the top dawg at 140 side with Garcia. Those who think Lucas in reality really still is undefeated and robbed vs Judah and Alexander side with him. I think Alexander is as good as Khan. I have Mathysse #1 140lber, but not by much. Mathysse vs. Garcia I think a battle, perhaps even FOTY many want to see between the 2 destroyers.
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thewinfella The Golden Boy East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 7,212 vCash: 75	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh What i like about Matthyse is his application, he's an intelligent stalker, yes he takes shots but nothing that clean, and he packs, he's got that natural heavy hands look to him Is he the best at 140? im not sure Marquez is the best fighter in the division i think everyone can agree on that, after him comes Matthyse and a host of others, if Tim Bradley is a WW now for good then i feel id have little choice but to name Matthyse as the #2 in the division, he's better than Danny Garcia IMHO, and if the two fought i think Matthyse would walk through him TBH
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Barrera Cotto Crabwalk Enthusiast ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 1,288 vCash: 500	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh I think its out of matthyse and rios Until they fight i cantcrown a king Garcia needs to fight one of them (or hell just fight someone alive...)
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Beatle Sheer Analysis ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,286 vCash: 1337	Re: Matthysse Most Avoided/Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision??(Jmm,Garcia,Rios,kh Depends on the outcome of Garcia vs Judah.
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DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 13,374 vCash: 500	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh No one just "walks through" Garcia, Matthysse is perhaps even more overrated than Maidana was a few year ago.
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Doc "Slick White Chocolate" East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The City Of Angels. Posts: 8,966 vCash: 1000	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh Mathysse has everything to make it big but a fanbase should rock the Mexican colors ill proudly add him to our roster, FUCKING argentiness not supporting.this beast in numbers is shameful.
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11-15-2012, 09:57 PM	#60
Counterclock Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 73 vCash: 500	Re: Matthysse Best fighter in stacked 140lb dvision not named Marquez?(Garcia,Rios,kh Matthysse is 30 years old and in his prime, while Garcia is 24 years old and still improving. I feel we've seen Matthysse at his best while Garcia still has years to go. It really depends on when they face each other. The sooner for Matthysse the better.
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