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Old 11-14-2012, 03:14 PM   #46
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Clinches should be considered especially dirty in fights between southpaws and righties since they rarely happen in such match-ups.
Sorry but this is stupid
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:21 PM   #47
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That's fair enough. In terms of their intent behind their actions, it's equally debatable both ways. In terms of the rules of boxing, though, I still think only one of them committed an actual foul in that sequence.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:21 PM   #48
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That's fair enough. In terms of their intent behind their actions, it's equally debatable both ways. In terms of the rules of boxing, though, I still think only one of them committed an actual foul in that sequence.
So holding is legal now? I thought you could lose a point for holding? Not that what Lara did was holding. It was more like choking, but if you don't want to see that, then that's you.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:41 PM   #49
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So holding is legal now? I thought you could lose a point for holding? Not that what Lara did was holding. It was more like choking, but if you don't want to see that, then that's you.
No, you can lose a point for excessive repeated holding after multiple warnings about it.

Even that rule is very flexibly interpreted; look at John Ruiz's career.

A single clinch, whether or not it's a headlock or even a choke, is never a foul in and of itself.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:44 PM   #50
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Lara thought he was in MMA with those textbook choke holds.

Funny he pushes him face to face but once in the ring , runs hugs choke holds Head butts and low blows... Lmao Cubans mad there prediction of easy fight easy ud vanes not on paras levels and arguably beat lara before laras frustration of getting worked on led to his headbut.

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Old 11-14-2012, 05:03 PM   #51
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who gives a ****,....they had beef!!!...wtf u dummies,..lara and vanes didnt like each other,..thats wat happens,..yall stop bieng pussies out there,..aiigghhhttt
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:07 PM   #52
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No, you can lose a point for excessive repeated holding after multiple warnings about it.

Even that rule is very flexibly interpreted; look at John Ruiz's career.

A single clinch, whether or not it's a headlock or even a choke, is never a foul in and of itself.
C'mon IB, you know what he did was a foul. Same can be applied to low blows, look at Mares' recent fights. So now a low blow isn't a foul because the refs didn't call it? A ref doesn't deduct a point or even give a warning for all low blows. Same with hitting on the break and holding, but they are all illegal just the same. Don't get me wrong, what Lara did wasn't just holding, more like an MMA submission attempt.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:09 PM   #53
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Lara thought he was in MMA with those textbook choke holds.

Funny he pushes him face to face but once in the ring , runs hugs choke holds Head butts and low blows... Lmao Cubans mad there prediction of easy fight easy ud vanes not on paras levels and arguably beat lara before laras frustration of getting worked on led to his headbut.

shame

doc u have to be 1 of the biggest punk ass coward bums that has ever graced a forum.

bitch lara was dominating the fight,..look at the punch stats,..he outlanded vanes every round...it wasnt spectacular,..but he won every round pretty easy,..r u a dumbass that every time vanes thre a punch "that didnt land",.thew crowd would cheer,..r u 1 of those idiots that think they landed???..gtfoh bitch.

you are a disgrace to your family and kids if your sorry bum ass even has any,in which i feel sorry for then that there dad is a waste of human flesh.

and bro u have 7000 post ..really???..get a life u bum..hahaha
youre a waste.lmfao!!!!
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:13 PM   #54
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A few low blows and holding, nothing criminal.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:35 PM   #55
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Lol all you morons need to learn what an actual guillotine choke looks like. There was no choking involved there.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:45 PM   #56
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Lara does fight like a punk. If he had that ref in the Alexander vs Bailey fight, he would have been disqualified for all of his holding.

Honestly, refs like that are good for the sport when it's two young contendors that have no business holding.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:07 PM   #57
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doc u have to be 1 of the biggest punk ass coward bums that has ever graced a forum.

bitch lara was dominating the fight,..look at the punch stats,..he outlanded vanes every round...it wasnt spectacular,..but he won every round pretty easy,..r u a dumbass that every time vanes thre a punch "that didnt land",.thew crowd would cheer,..r u 1 of those idiots that think they landed???..gtfoh bitch.

you are a disgrace to your family and kids if your sorry bum ass even has any,in which i feel sorry for then that there dad is a waste of human flesh.

and bro u have 7000 post ..really???..get a life u bum..hahaha
youre a waste.lmfao!!!!
WHAT UP HOE! Did I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry I didn't know you were on your rag today.

wait, aren't you that idiot who got humiliated and clowned on for that shit thread "vanes quit like a bitch" and you wanna talk about me you ain't shit, go read a book you bum

Also I been posting for years, and average 6 posts a day hardly a life draining hobby you low IQ scumbag.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:16 PM   #58
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How I would love someone to disrespect my.family in front of my face, one thing is to insult me but to bring in my family sitting well protected your computer is a complete ***** move, cowardly move. Which shows you ain't a man, probably a coward little boy in mommy's house.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:05 PM   #59
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That's pathetic. He must've been watching Hopkins and Ward tapes. Of course that piece of shit Keleman was kissing his ass after the fight.

Nice choke out at 38 seconds.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:34 PM   #60
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Lara's a crafty muther****er thats fosho, he's dirty but whatever so is Mares, B-Hop, Holyfield etc... that vid did a horrible job of trying to prove a point when there was like 3-4 fouls in the whole thing.
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