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Old 11-16-2012, 10:42 AM   #1
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Default Kessler almost QUIT vs Ward or wanted out

** foot note** I like Kessler, not a super fan but i think he is a cool guy.
with that said...facts are facts...

and this is how the conversation goes because i watched it and rewound 10 times as i'm typing the timeline and what was said.....anyone doubts this, showtime broadcast as my reference.

After getting outboxed, out punched, beat up, roughed up we go to the meat of the topic when
kessler is hinting about getting out this fight.

these are stone cold facts in order ....

In Between Rounds 10, 11 the Dr comes into Kesslers corner to look at the 2nd cut

the ref informs kesslers corner that it came from a head butt as the dr is applying pressure..

Kesslers Corner : (shouting) to the referee " its not that bad, its not even bleeding"

Mikkel Kessler : "how many more rounds?" (looking very tired)

Kesslers Corner : "2 more rounds...just keep going , you have a chance"

Mikkel Kessler : (muffled) ( unclear what he mumbled) (listened to this part a bunch couldnt hear this import piece) (but you hear what his corner replied, so they must have heard him)

Kesslers Corner : you have to say stop it if you want it stopped, i'm not gonna stop it !

Mikkel Kessler : He keeps holding me

Kesslers Corner : use your left


DING ROUND 11

ward stalks him for 1 minute or so until....

Gus : Lead right Hand connecting by Ward!
(opens up cut on the eye lid)

Al Bernstein : Andre Ward is taking every chance in the world and getting away with it Kessler not getting it.

(Ref sees he is cut, takes him to the ring apron)
(Dr steps up on ring apron) and the ref says "its on the eye lid this time"
(Dr still looking at it)...
(Kessler quiet as a mouse after the long last look at the eye lid)
Dr : " I'm gonna stop"

NEWS FLASH for ALL you "QUITTING EXPERTS"
you can quit in a fight and you never have to be asked or untter the words "I Quit" he didnt say they words, be also didnt say "dont even think about stopping this, only 5 minutes left, i got this shit"


That is just as much of a quit job as what all you bitches want to label Dawson as...... there is NO DIFFERENCE

I dont blame Dawson for quitting, he took a beating for 9,10 rounds

and had Kessler said the words, i wouldnt blame him either, i felt bad for his schooling and he was simply out matched


i could have posted a shit youtube vid of the footage, but its not clear and as audible as my home copy
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:47 AM   #2
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You must have missed the part where is corner said 'do you want it stopped' and Kessler screamed 'NO'
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:50 AM   #3
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:03 AM   #4
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Default Re: Kessler almost QUIT vs Ward or wanted out

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** foot note** I like Kessler, not a super fan but i think he is a cool guy.
with that said...facts are facts...

and this is how the conversation goes because i watched it and rewound 10 times as i'm typing the timeline and what was said.....anyone doubts this, showtime broadcast as my reference.

After getting outboxed, out punched, beat up, roughed up we go to the meat of the topic when
kessler is hinting about getting out this fight.

these are stone cold facts in order ....

In Between Rounds 10, 11 the Dr comes into Kesslers corner to look at the 2nd cut

the ref informs kesslers corner that it came from a head butt as the dr is applying pressure..

Kesslers Corner : (shouting) to the referee " its not that bad, its not even bleeding"

Mikkel Kessler : "how many more rounds?" (looking very tired)

Kesslers Corner : "2 more rounds...just keep going , you have a chance"

Mikkel Kessler : (muffled) ( unclear what he mumbled) (listened to this part a bunch couldnt hear this import piece) (but you hear what his corner replied, so they must have heard him)

Kesslers Corner : you have to say stop it if you want it stopped, i'm not gonna stop it !

Mikkel Kessler : He keeps holding me

Kesslers Corner : use your left


DING ROUND 11

ward stalks him for 1 minute or so until....

Gus : Lead right Hand connecting by Ward!
(opens up cut on the eye lid)

Al Bernstein : Andre Ward is taking every chance in the world and getting away with it Kessler not getting it.

(Ref sees he is cut, takes him to the ring apron)
(Dr steps up on ring apron) and the ref says "its on the eye lid this time"
(Dr still looking at it)...
(Kessler quiet as a mouse after the long last look at the eye lid)
Dr : " I'm gonna stop"

NEWS FLASH for ALL you "QUITTING EXPERTS"
you can quit in a fight and you never have to be asked or untter the words "I Quit" he didnt say they words, be also didnt say "dont even think about stopping this, only 5 minutes left, i got this shit"


That is just as much of a quit job as what all you bitches want to label Dawson as...... there is NO DIFFERENCE

I dont blame Dawson for quitting, he took a beating for 9,10 rounds

and had Kessler said the words, i wouldnt blame him either, i felt bad for his schooling and he was simply out matched


i could have posted a shit youtube vid of the footage, but its not clear and as audible as my home copy

another bernard hopkins hug artist. get the headbutts in to give you a chance.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:34 AM   #5
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** foot note** I like Kessler, not a super fan but i think he is a cool guy.
with that said...facts are facts...

and this is how the conversation goes because i watched it and rewound 10 times as i'm typing the timeline and what was said.....anyone doubts this, showtime broadcast as my reference.

After getting outboxed, out punched, beat up, roughed up we go to the meat of the topic when
kessler is hinting about getting out this fight.

these are stone cold facts in order ....

In Between Rounds 10, 11 the Dr comes into Kesslers corner to look at the 2nd cut

the ref informs kesslers corner that it came from a head butt as the dr is applying pressure..

Kesslers Corner : (shouting) to the referee " its not that bad, its not even bleeding"

Mikkel Kessler : "how many more rounds?" (looking very tired)

Kesslers Corner : "2 more rounds...just keep going , you have a chance"

Mikkel Kessler : (muffled) ( unclear what he mumbled) (listened to this part a bunch couldnt hear this import piece) (but you hear what his corner replied, so they must have heard him)

Kesslers Corner : you have to say stop it if you want it stopped, i'm not gonna stop it !

Mikkel Kessler : He keeps holding me

Kesslers Corner : use your left

DING ROUND 11

ward stalks him for 1 minute or so until....

Gus : Lead right Hand connecting by Ward!
(opens up cut on the eye lid)

Al Bernstein : Andre Ward is taking every chance in the world and getting away with it Kessler not getting it.

(Ref sees he is cut, takes him to the ring apron)
(Dr steps up on ring apron) and the ref says "its on the eye lid this time"
(Dr still looking at it)...
(Kessler quiet as a mouse after the long last look at the eye lid)
Dr : " I'm gonna stop"

NEWS FLASH for ALL you "QUITTING EXPERTS"
you can quit in a fight and you never have to be asked or untter the words "I Quit" he didnt say they words, be also didnt say "dont even think about stopping this, only 5 minutes left, i got this shit"

That is just as much of a quit job as what all you bitches want to label Dawson as...... there is NO DIFFERENCE

I dont blame Dawson for quitting, he took a beating for 9,10 rounds

and had Kessler said the words, i wouldnt blame him either, i felt bad for his schooling and he was simply out matched


i could have posted a shit youtube vid of the footage, but its not clear and as audible as my home copy
I agree, he was a "beaten" man and Ward broke his spirit, it's not to disrespect Kessler but as you said you can see when a fighter is done. He knew he was overmatched, had taken a beating, and was ready to quit but to his credit (I guess) his pride kept him going back for more until it was stopped.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:06 PM   #6
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Gus : Lead right Hand connecting by Ward!
(opens up cut on the eye lid)


Yep. There was no headbutts. None.

You said you saw it 10 times? Must have been on an old nokia phone.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:11 PM   #7
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:23 PM   #8
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I don't see sufficient evidence that Kessler wanted to quit, although clearly he was having a damn hard time keeping his spirits up. I am however to this day dissapointed that Kessler simply refused to give Ward any credit for his performance in the postfight interview, and has continued to do so ever since, especially because he always tries to come off as a gentleman and a nice guy.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:49 PM   #12
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That fight was atrocious. Shameful performance by Ward. I used to think Clottey would lead with the head too much, but this dude full on lunges head first at Kessler. I couldn't believe it.
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** foot note** I like Kessler, not a super fan but i think he is a cool guy.
with that said...facts are facts...

and this is how the conversation goes because i watched it and rewound 10 times as i'm typing the timeline and what was said.....anyone doubts this, showtime broadcast as my reference.

After getting outboxed, out punched, beat up, roughed up we go to the meat of the topic when
kessler is hinting about getting out this fight.

these are stone cold facts in order ....

In Between Rounds 10, 11 the Dr comes into Kesslers corner to look at the 2nd cut

the ref informs kesslers corner that it came from a head butt as the dr is applying pressure..

Kesslers Corner : (shouting) to the referee " its not that bad, its not even bleeding"

Mikkel Kessler : "how many more rounds?" (looking very tired)

Kesslers Corner : "2 more rounds...just keep going , you have a chance"

Mikkel Kessler : (muffled) ( unclear what he mumbled) (listened to this part a bunch couldnt hear this import piece) (but you hear what his corner replied, so they must have heard him)

Kesslers Corner : you have to say stop it if you want it stopped, i'm not gonna stop it !

Mikkel Kessler : He keeps holding me

Kesslers Corner : use your left


DING ROUND 11

ward stalks him for 1 minute or so until....

Gus : Lead right Hand connecting by Ward!
(opens up cut on the eye lid)

Al Bernstein : Andre Ward is taking every chance in the world and getting away with it Kessler not getting it.

(Ref sees he is cut, takes him to the ring apron)
(Dr steps up on ring apron) and the ref says "its on the eye lid this time"
(Dr still looking at it)...
(Kessler quiet as a mouse after the long last look at the eye lid)
Dr : " I'm gonna stop"

NEWS FLASH for ALL you "QUITTING EXPERTS"
you can quit in a fight and you never have to be asked or untter the words "I Quit" he didnt say they words, be also didnt say "dont even think about stopping this, only 5 minutes left, i got this shit"


That is just as much of a quit job as what all you bitches want to label Dawson as...... there is NO DIFFERENCE

I dont blame Dawson for quitting, he took a beating for 9,10 rounds

and had Kessler said the words, i wouldnt blame him either, i felt bad for his schooling and he was simply out matched


i could have posted a shit youtube vid of the footage, but its not clear and as audible as my home copy
What you just described was no schooling, unless you think head butting is part of boxing. You just described Kessler getting head butted to death. Continuously getting concussive head-buts.
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I don't see sufficient evidence that Kessler wanted to quit, although clearly he was having a damn hard time keeping his spirits up. I am however to this day dissapointed that Kessler simply refused to give Ward any credit for his performance in the postfight interview, and has continued to do so ever since, especially because he always tries to come off as a gentleman and a nice guy.
Kessler does not respect head butting and holding.

I doubt he ever will.
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"The better man won on the night"- Mikkel Kessler
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