Most unpopular champion - Page 2

Theron · 11-16-2012, 01:47 AM

Jack Johnson no doubt he was the least liked.
John Ruiz didn't get harrased and their fight footage stopped because they won, the ref didn't even count when jeffries went down just waited for him to get up

PhillyPhan69 · 11-16-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by janitor

Isn't this a no brainer for Jack Johnson?

Are most hated and unpopular the same thing????

My vote is for Ingmar

KOKid · 11-16-2012, 04:55 AM

Maybe not the most unpopular, but one of the least respected champions was surley Al McCoy, who held the middleweight title 1914-17.
McCoy is often referred to as the "original cheese champion".

First off all, he was a southpaw, which were not at all appreciated back then.
He also was not regarded as much of a fighter, his upset win over George Chip to win the belt was for many years regarded as one of the biggest upsets in boxing history.

McCoy also benefitted greatly from being a champion in the No Decision era, because his lost numerous newspaper decisions during his reign as champ but still held onto the belt.
Some of the guys McCoy lost NDs to during his stretch as "official champion", were Jack Dillon, Jimmy Clabby, Harry Greb and George Chip (in rematches).
Another great fighter of that era which would have been a huge favorite over McCoy was Les Darcy.
If there were any ratings back then, I doubt McCoy would be in the top 30.

No one was sorry when McCoy was finally KO'd in his fight with Mike O'Dowd in 1917 - not even McCoy's own father, who reportedly used to bet aginst his son.

McCoy is largely forgotten today, but he was a real nuisance back in the 1910's - probably much like John Ruiz was for us for a while.

red cobra · 11-16-2012, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Funny Man 7

Sammy Angott was routinely booed for his safety first 'clutch' style even though he notched an amazing list of scalps including some over Jenkins, Montgomer, and William.

And the guy lined up to fight Robinson THREE times, when he was a lightweight and Ray was a massive welterweight. That takes some serious stones.

And let's not forget another prize scalp of his...Willie Pep.

Unforgiven · 11-16-2012, 07:02 AM

I don't think it was Jack Johnson, who was very popular outside of America.

Possibly Max Schmeling and Jack Sharkey, who went 1-1 against each other in controversial heavyweight matches that did nothing for the prestige of the title.

ron u.k. · 11-16-2012, 07:20 AM

Well Ali could top this,but he could also top a poll for the most popular fighter ever,especially worldwide.

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Theron Steele the Tacoma Assasin ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,454 vCash: 773	Re: Most unpopular champion Jack Johnson no doubt he was the least liked. John Ruiz didn't get harrased and their fight footage stopped because they won, the ref didn't even count when jeffries went down just waited for him to get up
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11-16-2012, 04:55 AM	#18
KOKid Journeyman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 63 vCash: 1000	Re: Most unpopular champion Maybe not the most unpopular, but one of the least respected champions was surley Al McCoy, who held the middleweight title 1914-17. McCoy is often referred to as the "original cheese champion". First off all, he was a southpaw, which were not at all appreciated back then. He also was not regarded as much of a fighter, his upset win over George Chip to win the belt was for many years regarded as one of the biggest upsets in boxing history. McCoy also benefitted greatly from being a champion in the No Decision era, because his lost numerous newspaper decisions during his reign as champ but still held onto the belt. Some of the guys McCoy lost NDs to during his stretch as "official champion", were Jack Dillon, Jimmy Clabby, Harry Greb and George Chip (in rematches). Another great fighter of that era which would have been a huge favorite over McCoy was Les Darcy. If there were any ratings back then, I doubt McCoy would be in the top 30. No one was sorry when McCoy was finally KO'd in his fight with Mike O'Dowd in 1917 - not even McCoy's own father, who reportedly used to bet aginst his son. McCoy is largely forgotten today, but he was a real nuisance back in the 1910's - probably much like John Ruiz was for us for a while.
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Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13,142 vCash: 1000	Re: Most unpopular champion I don't think it was Jack Johnson, who was very popular outside of America. Possibly Max Schmeling and Jack Sharkey, who went 1-1 against each other in controversial heavyweight matches that did nothing for the prestige of the title.
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ron u.k. Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5,184 vCash: 1000	Re: Most unpopular champion Well Ali could top this,but he could also top a poll for the most popular fighter ever,especially worldwide.
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