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Old 11-16-2012, 03:39 AM   #1
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Default Who is no longer a top 10 ATG because of Wlads decision over Wach?

one of these guys gots to go!

Larry Holmes
48-0 start

Evander Holyfied
(Beat Bowe, Foreman, Holmes, Douglas, Tyson, 24 rounds w Lennox etc.)

Mike Tyson-
Youngest UNDISPUTED champ ever

Jack Johnson

Jack Dempsey

George Foreman

Rocky Marciano
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:02 AM   #2
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The Wach fight doesn't move Wlad a bit at this time. When and if he takes a top 10 spot he"ll be pushing Marciano out on my list.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:45 AM   #3
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Jack Johnson. And Tyson is not the youngest undisputed champion ever.
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Jack Johnson. And Tyson is not the youngest undisputed champion ever.
Youngest titlist. Youngest undisputed belongs to Floyd Patterson.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:55 AM   #5
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Evander Holyfied
(Beat Bowe, Foreman, Holmes, Douglas, Tyson, 24 rounds w Lennox etc.)
Foreman was 42, Holmes was 43 and Buster Douglas was an alcohol addicted 285 lbs slob of lard by the time Holyfield faced him. Certainly not great achievements.

He's 1 in 3 with Bowe, 1 in 2 with Lewis and 2 in 2 with a post-prison Tyson.

Does Wlad kick him out of an ATG list? I think the jurys still out, but lets not act like if Holyfield's record was untouchable.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:58 AM   #6
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Youngest titlist. Youngest undisputed belongs to Floyd Patterson.
I find it ridiculous that 'youngest champ' is supposed to give a fighter points towards an ATG ranking.

What's next? Lightest HW champ? Heaviest HW champ? It's all a bunch of non-sense.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:59 AM   #7
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I find it ridiculous that 'youngest champ' is supposed to give a fighter points towards an ATG ranking.

What's next? Lightest HW champ? Heaviest HW champ? It's all a bunch of non-sense.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:01 AM   #8
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Wlad will be in there when he retires.


When you are watching the same fat, slow as hell heavys sluggin it out competitively for the belts, people will realise actually how good Wlad became.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:48 AM   #9
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Evander Holyfied(Beat Bowe, Foreman, Holmes, Douglas, Tyson, 24 rounds w Lennox etc.)
Foreman was old and slow, and still gave him a tough fight. Holmes was 10 years past his prime. Douglas is shit. Tyson was a good win, though it wasn't prime Tyson.

24 rounds with Lennox as an accomplishment
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:49 AM   #10
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I find it ridiculous that 'youngest champ' is supposed to give a fighter points towards an ATG ranking.

What's next? Lightest HW champ? Heaviest HW champ? It's all a bunch of non-sense.


Exactly. Who cares if he was youngest champ. The good part of his career only lastes 4 years. I would have preferred if Tyson peaked a bit later and had a much longer prime, being able to accomplish more.

Btw the youngest undisputed HW Champ is Patterson, a guy who would be crushed by Wlad.
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