Kessler "Ward Has No Guts " - Page 28

Elvizzz · 11-20-2012, 09:04 AM

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Yes the 175 division is hardly brimming with talent. But it's a new challenge. Winning titles in a 2nd weight class, would be more of an achievement than fighting guys you've already beaten at 168 in my opinion.

If Froch and Kessler moved up, I think Andre would be more open to the rematches, especially if one of them won a belt. You're making it sound like Andre's is running from them? He's already beaten them. I'd like to see him move up and rematch Chad at 175, and fight Clev, if he keeps progressing.

Why would he reject Pascal? I think your being harsh. If Pascal fought at 168, Andre would probably be open to a possible fight. Pavlik and the 175 fighters, would bring Andre a new challenge. Even if the fighters at 175 aren't as good as Kessler and Froch, it's still a fresh challenge. I like Carl, and him wanting a rematch with Andre, just shows you the make up of the man. He's a warrior just like Kessler. But I don't see how you or anyone can criticise Andre for not being up for it, when he's easily beaten him, less than a year ago. It doesn't make sense.

Andre is the man. Froch and Kessler want him, because he's the best, and they want redemption. But again, what does Andre gain? It would be a huge fight from their perspective, but not from Andre's.

What attitude? He's won the Super Six, and then fought Chad, in what many people thought would be a great competitve close fight. Give the guy some slack. If you were Andre Ward, would you fight Carl again now? I certainly wouldn't. Depending on what happens, they may fight somewehere down the line, but as it stands, you can't blame Andre for not being interested. He's beaten Carl, and has nothing to prove

Regards, Loudon.

You know Ward said him and Kessler have unfinished business because of the controversy... I dont care if Ward would have won with or without the headbutts (who really knows what would have happened). A rematch should be arranged...

dendy · 11-20-2012, 09:20 AM

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you can't blame Andre for not being interested. He's beaten Carl, and has nothing to prove

He is interested though, check out his twitter, he knows financially it makes sense

Loudon · 11-20-2012, 09:38 AM

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You know Ward said him and Kessler have unfinished business because of the controversy... I dont care if Ward would have won with or without the headbutts (who really knows what would have happened). A rematch should be arranged...

It would be good, but I don't think it SHOULD be arranged.

Regards, Loudon.

Loudon · 11-20-2012, 09:40 AM

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He is interested though, check out his twitter, he knows financially it makes sense

Like I say, it may happen down the line. But at the moment, Andre has nothing to prove and he'll fight Pavlik.

Regards, Loudon.

Elvizzz · 11-20-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvizzz

It would be good, but I don't think it SHOULD be arranged.

Regards, Loudon.

Well... Its up to Ward... If Ward decides to vacate his WBA belt instead of fighting Kessler his a ducker in my book, considering his statement.. In your book a financial mastermind, who fights for money only..

Reppin501 · 11-20-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Loudon

You know Ward said him and Kessler have unfinished business because of the controversy... I dont care if Ward would have won with or without the headbutts (who really knows what would have happened). A rematch should be arranged...

What "controversy" are you referring to?

Elvizzz · 11-20-2012, 10:03 AM

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What "controversy" are you referring to?

Im not going to discuss this with a blind man... Get a dog...

Reppin501 · 11-20-2012, 10:04 AM

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Well... Its up to Ward... If Ward decides to vacate his WBA belt instead of fighting Kessler his a ducker in my book, considering his statement.. In your book a financial mastermind, who fights for money only..

Ducking a guy you beat the hell out of and basically made quit between rounds...

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Loudon · 11-20-2012, 10:04 AM

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Well... Its up to Ward... If Ward decides to vacate his WBA belt instead of fighting Kessler his a ducker in my book, considering his statement.. In your book a financial mastermind, who fights for money only..

We'll see what happens, but I don't see how he can be a ducker, when he's already beaten him.

He may vacate his belts and move up soon? We'll have to wait and see. But other than Bute, he's fought and beaten everyone relevant. Hopefully Bute's still got something left in the tank, and Dirrell can comeback strong. If not, I think he'll move up to 175.

Regards, Loudon.

Reppin501 · 11-20-2012, 10:06 AM

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Im not going to discuss this with a blind man... Get a dog...

I'm sure you won't, the bottom line is that no amount of revisionist history is going to change the fact that Andre Ward beat the piss out of Kessler, and he would do so again. There is no controversy, other than butthurt Euro's who just can't accept that Ward is the best thing going today.

MrMagic · 11-20-2012, 10:06 AM

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Ducking a guy you beat the hell out of and basically made quit between rounds...

Trying to labell Mikkel Kessler a quitter, when in reality he has never quit in his career.

Why would you do that, even if used only to troll some of the most die hard, deluded Kess fans?
Kessler is not a quitter, get that through your head.

FPJ · 11-20-2012, 11:37 AM

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Trying to labell Mikkel Kessler a quitter, when in reality he has never quit in his career.

Except he quit the fight against Bute

Bulletproof · 11-20-2012, 11:41 AM

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Trying to labell Mikkel Kessler a quitter, when in reality he has never quit in his career.

Why would you do that, even if used only to troll some of the most die hard, deluded Kess fans?
Kessler is not a quitter, get that through your head.

I wouldn't go as far as to say Kessler quit vs Ward, I will say it was more like Kessler concede that he was going to lose. People like to use the headbutts as a crutch, but before the one that cut Kessler, Ward was dominating. Pac fans like to blame his cut as to why Morales beat him. Morales like Ward was in complete control before the cuts happened.

Beouche · 11-20-2012, 12:19 PM

The quote was misinterpreted. Kessler really said

"Ward has nuggets"

JoeAverage · 12-07-2012, 09:57 AM

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Like I say, it may happen down the line. But at the moment, Andre has nothing to prove and he'll fight Pavlik.

Regards, Loudon.

What does figthing Pavlik prove?

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Beouche Dinamita East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 10,200 vCash: 500	Re: Kessler "Ward Has No Guts " The quote was misinterpreted. Kessler really said "Ward has nuggets"
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