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Old 11-16-2012, 12:16 PM   #16
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Come on. Ward doesn't destroy people. Just take the L(esson) and move on.
Kelly is already destroyed. It's not going to be nice to see him beat up for twelve rounds. I wouldn't begrudge Ward taking an easy fight after the run of fighters he's taken on but I'd be much more comfortable with him fighting someone like Edwin Rodriguez. Pavlik hasn't beaten anyone of note in years and he's looked shite against journeymen.

I like both these guys. I'm not gonna enjoy it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:38 PM   #17
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Kelly is already destroyed. It's not going to be nice to see him beat up for twelve rounds. I wouldn't begrudge Ward taking an easy fight after the run of fighters he's taken on but I'd be much more comfortable with him fighting someone like Edwin Rodriguez. Pavlik hasn't beaten anyone of note in years and he's looked shite against journeymen.

I like both these guys. I'm not gonna enjoy it.
Exactly, and apparently has been well paid for it. But now, after being "destroyed" and fighting on friday night fights, and various undercards, why now should he suddenly expect a $million+ fight. Well, really I know why, but things have changed.

My guess is he will be "well paid" for Ward, but probably not a million(s).
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:40 PM   #18
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Exactly, and apparently has been well paid for it. But now, after being "destroyed" and fighting on friday night fights, and various undercards, why now should he suddenly expect a $million+ fight. Well, really I know why, but things have changed.

My guess is he will be "well paid" for Ward, but probably not a million(s).
Are you kidding? Do you really think Pavlik would fight someone as dangerous as Ward for less than a million dollars?
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:45 PM   #19
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Are you kidding? Do you really think Pavlik would fight someone as dangerous as Ward for less than a million dollars?


As in, yes, I do.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:46 PM   #20
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If Pavlik is not going to fight someone like Abraham or Froch, he should fight Ward. I think Abraham and Froch are more winnable for him.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:03 PM   #21
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As in, yes, I do.
He could make six figures against almost anyone in the top 20. Pavlik is undoubtedly aware of this so why would he fight someone(Ward) who could possibly end his career for the same money?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:06 PM   #22
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He could make six figures against almost anyone in the top 20. Pavlik is undoubtedly aware of this so why would he fight someone(Ward) who could possibly end his career for the same money?
So be it.

I suspect this is probably why this fight won't be.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #23
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Why would anyone fight in Oakland?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:37 PM   #24
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #25
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As in, yes, I do.
Pavlik has said many times that he does not need to fight, he has saved his money. If Pavlik is not getting the kind of money he wants he will retire is what he said.

He has said in interviews that he is not taking punches unless he is well paid. He said being able to talk to his kids when he gets older is very important to him and he is not going to risk it for less then what he thinks it is worth.

And he frequently points out the kind of money he got paid for fighting Gary Locket as a measuring stick. He fought Locket for 2 million so he should be getting well paid to fight Ward.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:43 PM   #26
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Is this fight in Oakland, why?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:48 PM   #27
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Is this fight in Oakland, why?
Why not ? Ward is the champion and Pavlik doesn't bring shit to the table to be allowed to say anything against it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:49 PM   #28
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Are you kidding? Do you really think Pavlik would fight someone as dangerous as Ward for less than a million dollars?
Pavlik will be lucky to get $200,000 for this fight and should jump on it. He is nothing right now and needs this opportunity to get bigger pay days. Without another big name in the ring, Pavlik isn't getting paid over $15k
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:03 AM   #29
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Pavlik will be lucky to get $200,000 for this fight and should jump on it. He is nothing right now and needs this opportunity to get bigger pay days. Without another big name in the ring, Pavlik isn't getting paid over $15k
Please reference Big Red's post above. This is getting a little old...
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:10 AM   #30
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I don't think Pavlik sells his name for $200k, it probably costed Bob Arum and the like more than $200k to get him to California, let alone fighting Andre Ward!

Didn't Pavlik turn down the Bute fight, sighting $300k as "peanuts"?
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