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Old 11-17-2012, 03:19 PM   #1
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No man ever would have beaten Lewis on that night.
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Golota Sues Own Doctor Over Shot

Claiming that a bad reaction to a painkiller was to blame for his October 1997 loss to Lennox Lewis, Andrew Golota has filed a $21 million lawsuit against his personal physician.
Golota's lawyer, Tom DiBiasi, said yesterday from his Nutley, N.J., office that a shot of lidocaine administered by Dr. Scott Katzman shortly before the Atlantic City bout impaired Golota's vision and caused him to feel light-headed and dizzy. That is why Lewis was able to knock the Polish heavyweight out 95 seconds into Round 1, DiBiasi said.

For all of those who don't know, if a local anesthetic like lidocaine enters systemic circulation it can be fatal.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:23 PM   #3
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With a prime Lennox Lewis against a prime Holyfield and a prime Mike Tyson, I think Lennox would have still beaten both of them, because he was just too big for them and he had enough all around skills and a solid amateur background to match them also.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:24 PM   #4
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'92 Riddick Bowe FTW
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^^Beats Lennox azz
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Golota Sues Own Doctor Over Shot

Claiming that a bad reaction to a painkiller was to blame for his October 1997 loss to Lennox Lewis, Andrew Golota has filed a $21 million lawsuit against his personal physician.
Golota's lawyer, Tom DiBiasi, said yesterday from his Nutley, N.J., office that a shot of lidocaine administered by Dr. Scott Katzman shortly before the Atlantic City bout impaired Golota's vision and caused him to feel light-headed and dizzy. That is why Lewis was able to knock the Polish heavyweight out 95 seconds into Round 1, DiBiasi said.

For all of those who don't know, if a local anesthetic like lidocaine enters systemic circulation it can be fatal.
I know about that, and I know Golota wasn't in his prime anymore.
I know Golota had a nervous breakdown.
But that doesn't take away Lewis was "the man" that night.

Golota was also not the fastest starter...

Boy, Golota had such a wonderful jab before injuries :(
Shame he never lived to his potential.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:25 PM   #6
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With a prime Lennox Lewis against a prime Holyfield and a prime Mike Tyson, I think Lennox would have still beaten both of them, because he was just too big for them and he had enough all around skills and a solid amateur background to match them also.
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No. Thats not true. Size means nothing. End of story.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #7
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With a prime Lennox Lewis against a prime Holyfield and a prime Mike Tyson, I think Lennox would have still beaten both of them, because he was just too big for them and he had enough all around skills and a solid amateur background to match them also.
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I would say other than that, the fights where he realized he was losing and he made an adjustment. You know the fights with Vitali, which clearly he was losing. And I will be with Vitali and Wladimir and we will be together, and some people will ask, “Mr. Steward, who would have won if that fight had of continued with Vitali and Lennox?”

I said, “Lennox was going to win that fight”.

“Well, you know, Vitali was ahead”.

I said, “Ahead is one thing, but he had six rounds to go! In a heavyweight fight, and one fighter’s whole face is torn apart?”

I mean it’s ridiculous. There is no way he was going to win that. Lennox had been in those situations before and then came back.

But nevertheless Lennox was a guy that did what he had to do! I loved that about him. He would make his adjustments, and if you would say “do this” then he would do it. The fight with Tua, we knew that Tua was a little short dangerous guy, and he was going to be dangerous all the way, because he maintained his punching power from the first round to the last. Not like Mike after a certain amount of rounds, Mike’s intensity and punching power were kind of drained. Tua was a little slow guy, but he had punching power with them little short arms. We had a strategy to just go about a good technical for a good technical effort, and not to go for a knockout and take any risks. That’s why we fought that fight that way. But any time if I had changed the plan to get him out of there, Lennox would have gotten him out of there. That’s what made him special to me more so than all of the other heavyweights I’ve saw and worked with in history.
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No. Thats not true. Size means nothing. End of story.
Size means everything. (Not talking about height)
I'm talking about a fighter his "optimum fighting weight", and having a higher "optimum fighting weight" is a big advantage..

There is a reason there are weightclasses.
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I know about that, and I know Golota wasn't in his prime anymore.
I know Golota had a nervous breakdown.
But that doesn't take away Lewis was "the man" that night.

Golota was also not the fastest starter...

Boy, Golota had such a wonderful jab before injuries :(
Shame he never lived to his potential.
I agree

Golota was the real deal
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Ali would have danced that night.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:33 PM   #11
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Size means everything. (Not talking about height)
I'm talking about a fighter his "optimum fighting weight", and having a higher "optimum fighting weight" is a big advantage..

There is a reason there are weightclasses.
You have a simplistic black and white understanding. Lewis's size wouldn't save him from prime Tyson. Skills prevail over size everytime.
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You have a simplistic black and white understanding. Lewis's size wouldn't save him from prime Tyson. Skills prevail over size everytime.
Lewis wouldn't survive Tyson

He doesn't have the chin nor the athleticism to last with prime Iron Mike
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You have a simplistic black and white understanding. Lewis's size wouldn't save him from prime Tyson. Skills prevail over size everytime.
Not 100% true, if the size difference isn't too big skill can trump size.
But Tua would pulverize almost every cruiser(sub 200) ever, even while lacking skills.

Also how much more skill does a prime Tyson have against a prime Lewis with Steward in his corner?
Lewis could adjust in a single round.

I don't really think Tyson wins the skill department either.



(Yes, I edit my posts a lot, I tend to forget whole words or don't properly edit my post the first time because I often read over mistakes the first time)
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Not 100% true, if the size difference isn't too big skill can trump size.
But Tua would pulverize almost every cruiser(sub 200) ever, even without the skills.

Also how much skill does a prime Tyson against a prime Lewis with Steward in his corner?
Lewis could adjust in a single round.

I don't really think Tyson wins the skill department either.
Tysons head movement, body attack, combination punching were elite. Even his jab was excellent for a man his size ... probably better than Lewis' jab

Lewis nearly lost to Ray Mercer ... I don't see him beating a prime Iron Mike Tyson.
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Ali > Tyson

Crazy fools. Check the resume's.

Wonder what Ali could have done in 67,68 and 69.
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