Froch verbally attacks Khan again....

[L.J.KEYS.]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

That's not the point.

Firstly, I have no problem with either one of them saying what they've said because they're both individuals who are entitled to an opinion and like I mentioned in my first post in the thread, it's just the way Froch is.

What I dislike here is how everyone steps on Khan's toes when he says the mildest of things, yet others get away with it. And that 'league's above' comment I assume you're referring to when he said that to Brook, right?

Well, after everything he had said to Amir, is it wrong for him to say something like that to Kell? I guess it's all good how he was allowed to say "I'll do Pacquiao"

im with u on the part about people getting on khans back over throwaway comments, its very rare to find a boxer who doesnt hype himself up, and in doing so say something a bit stupid. ive actually defended khan in the past when ppl had a go at him for defending molina as an opponent, whats he supposed to do?? but there comes a time where you've lost two on the bounce, one by ko, and your still calling urself a "superstar" that it just looks ridiculous to be honest, so Froch is fair to bring him up on that. Khan consistently puts his foot in his mouth like no other boxer....actually it might help if he did physically put his foot in his mouth

[Peter__1987]

I went onto Haroon's twitter a while back.

I don't like him either.

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by PaulieMc

The reason Khan gets it worse than others mate when he opens his mouth is because he's by the far the worst when it comes delusion. Froch, Brook, Hatton, Haye, they all say stupid things from time to time that makes fans roll their eyes. Khan though is on another level.

The fact he's based himself in America and only fights over there now can't have helped. British fans can't help but feel like "So, what? We're not good enough for you eh? You think you fighting in America is better than fighting in front of us?" Plus no other British fighter to my knowledge has anywhere near whinged and bitched like Khan did after the Peterson loss.

First it was the ref, then the fact it was in Washington, then the man in the hat and then the drugs. Even when all the failed drug-test stuff came out about Peterson, I still think the way Khan behaved did MASSIVE damage to his reputation. Since then many people (including me) have seen him as nothing more than over-rated, big-headed, deluded crybaby who won't take responsibility when he messes up in a fight.

I see your point, but I feel I could justify a lot of his claims as well because at the end of the day, if he didn't 'cry' about that Peterson hassle, he wouldn't have got the rematch which obviously led to us finding out Peterson used a performance enhancing drug, so there's two perspectives to this, really.

I see it from the angle of what you're saying though. If I looked at all the things he said from one point, I'd think of him as a crybaby, like you said.

Originally Posted by Peter__1987

Yeah fair enough I suppose no ****er is getting PPV with Sky anymore not even Ricky, so I do see your point there.

And yes mate, we're both entitled to an opinion, and I do understand that you are a big Khan fan but you must surely be able to see why he is disliked by a lot of boxing fans?

I understand why he's disliked because of the comments about Mayweather, saying he'll beat this guy and that guy, coming out with the ignorant comments here and there, but no, I don't understand the mass dislike for him and that's an opinion I've held since I joined.

If I felt differently, I'd openly say it.

[Lazarus]

Originally Posted by L.J.KEYS.

im with u on the part about people getting on khans back over throwaway comments, its very rare to find a boxer who doesnt hype himself up, and in doing so say something a bit stupid. ive actually defended khan in the past when ppl had a go at him for defending molina as an opponent, whats he supposed to do?? but there comes a time where you've lost two on the bounce, one by ko, and your still calling urself a "superstar" that it just looks ridiculous to be honest, so Froch is fair to bring him up on that. Khan consistently puts his foot in his mouth like no other boxer....actually it might help if he did physically put his foot in his mouth

I see your points and I don't disagree. If he was constantly talking about himself being superstar now, which I don't think he has, I'd completely understand, bro.

My food is getting cold. You guys kept me on this, Peace.

[achillesthegreat]

Very very silly argument. Khan and Froch are probably the only two fighters who genuinely deserve respect.

[dftaylor]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

Personally think he's got a cunt of a persona, but that's just the way he is and it clearly lies with Froch who always seems to starts the little digs.

Smug character really.

And you are looking at this as a totally impartial fan, yes?

[Hamas]

All right far enough froch shluld have a rigjt to be a bit angry at the massive media attention khan gets, but don't slate him when he hasn't said anything, very poor from froch

[JamieC]

the op with a name like "sufijedi" and trying to claim hes not a big khan fan, we can all see through that, at the end of the day i'd like Froch to rise above as Khan does deserve respect for the heart he shows, he is a true fighter, but Froch is more durable and has proven himself to be the best British boxer since Calzaghe at least, so Khan should also show him a bit of respect and not dig at him, i dont see the need they're not rivals

[sufijedi]

Originally Posted by JamieC

the op with a name like "sufijedi" and trying to claim hes not a big khan fan, we can all see through that, at the end of the day i'd like Froch to rise above as Khan does deserve respect for the heart he shows, he is a true fighter, but Froch is more durable and has proven himself to be the best British boxer since Calzaghe at least, so Khan should also show him a bit of respect and not dig at him, i dont see the need they're not rivals

well i'm not!! yes i'm a muslim of ****stani origins but that dont mean i have to be a fan of Amir Khan.... thats ignorance on your part

I've never rated him as a top boxer although i wish him luck for the future 'representin an dat'

I don't rate Froch too highly either, although i feel his the best in Britain at the moment which says a lot really of how bad things are...

your last comment was so ridiculous it made me laugh.... its Froch that should not dig at him and show some respect not the other way round... theres no need for active boxers to be dissing their own county fighters especially since their not rivals...

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

I've got no reason to lie about it. Has he labelled himself as such? Yes. Has he continuously banged on about himself being a superstar? No.

You're being a bit pedantic here Laz.I think I can safely say I've always been very balanced about Khan and although I don't like the way he conducts himself at times,he's an exciting fighter who I enjoy watching.
But he's brought a lot of this on himself.And I heard him say on Primetime,"I should be a PPV fighter.I'm Britain's main boxing attraction"
Now you could argue that he had a valid point,but that for me constitutes "banging on about being a superstar" You still get people in his camp and people on here like iron_chin(honour your ban) attacking Froch in relation to Khan,but now Froch is the more respected fighter so we can't say that it's unfair on Khan now because when he had some credibility,Froch was fair game.
Like Peter said,you're a good poster but you're barking up the wrong tree here mate.

[Peter__1987]

He is a very good poster he just lets himself down in defence of Khan time and time again.

Just sayin Laz

[Primadonna Kool]

I don't know why David Haye try's to be all matey matey with Carl Froch.

"Carl Froch even had a dig at David Haye awhile back"...

[PityTheFool]

Originally Posted by Lazarus

I understand why he's disliked because of the comments about Mayweather, saying he'll beat this guy and that guy, coming out with the ignorant comments here and there, but no, I don't understand the mass dislike for him and that's an opinion I've held since I joined.

If I felt differently, I'd openly say it.

I can explain this quite easily Laz.
When Khan won his medal and turned pro,he was a very humble young man and his conduct in the wake of 7/7 only cemented his position as a fine role model for young athletes,but after the Prescott fight,he changed drastically.
Now you might say he only did what many top boxers do,but to go from where he was,to becoming this arrogant guy who tweeted about his dinners with royalty and various other general "noise ups"
You're not going to maintain the same fan base or standing with the public when you undergo such a radical change,and as he became more successful,he became more arrogant,and when you consider the only real crossover boxing stars are Bruno and Hatton,there was always going to be a backlash.
The whole "Staring down and calling out Bradley" thing is one of the biggest fallacies out there.He only looked until Bradley got near and then his eyes hit the floor like a silly schoolboy.As he tries to call him out there's no eye contact.Add to that the way he kept saying "We called out Morales,Marquez etc" which was another load of poppy****,because making derisory offers to legends which are correctly knocked back and then accusing them of ducking is not the way to win respect.
Boxing would be a poorer place without him but he brings these shitstorms on himself.

[dillinja]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

I can explain this quite easily Laz.
When Khan won his medal and turned pro,he was a very humble young man and his conduct in the wake of 7/7 only cemented his position as a fine role model for young athletes,but after the Prescott fight,he changed drastically.
Now you might say he only did what many top boxers do,but to go from where he was,to becoming this arrogant guy who tweeted about his dinners with royalty and various other general "noise ups"
You're not going to maintain the same fan base or standing with the public when you undergo such a radical change,and as he became more successful,he became more arrogant,and when you consider the only real crossover boxing stars are Bruno and Hatton,there was always going to be a backlash.
The whole "Staring down and calling out Bradley" thing is one of the biggest fallacies out there.He only looked until Bradley got near and then his eyes hit the floor like a silly schoolboy.As he tries to call him out there's no eye contact.Add to that the way he kept saying "We called out Morales,Marquez etc" which was another load of poppy****,because making derisory offers to legends which are correctly knocked back and then accusing them of ducking is not the way to win respect.
Boxing would be a poorer place without him but he brings these shitstorms on himself.

Great post

[Peter__1987]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

I can explain this quite easily Laz.
When Khan won his medal and turned pro,he was a very humble young man and his conduct in the wake of 7/7 only cemented his position as a fine role model for young athletes,but after the Prescott fight,he changed drastically.
Now you might say he only did what many top boxers do,but to go from where he was,to becoming this arrogant guy who tweeted about his dinners with royalty and various other general "noise ups"
You're not going to maintain the same fan base or standing with the public when you undergo such a radical change,and as he became more successful,he became more arrogant,and when you consider the only real crossover boxing stars are Bruno and Hatton,there was always going to be a backlash.
The whole "Staring down and calling out Bradley" thing is one of the biggest fallacies out there.He only looked until Bradley got near and then his eyes hit the floor like a silly schoolboy.As he tries to call him out there's no eye contact.Add to that the way he kept saying "We called out Morales,Marquez etc" which was another load of poppy****,because making derisory offers to legends which are correctly knocked back and then accusing them of ducking is not the way to win respect.
Boxing would be a poorer place without him but he brings these shitstorms on himself.

That's a fantastic post mate, and your completely right.