Is Ricky burns terrified of Adrian broner?

[SkillspayBills]

Where's Frank with his written offers (e-mails with one paragraph) when you need em'?.

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Originally Posted by tmsbry

How the he'll do you know he earns more than 400k

I don't, and I never claimed he did....it was you acting Billy Big Bollocks with the "Broner doesn't even earn that" statement...I just want to know how you know.

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Originally Posted by tmsbry

Ricky Burn's trainer has already said whatever they offered Burns was not fighting in February

He didn't actually say that did he? Besides, Billy has always said that he isn't and never has been party to negotiation, he leaves that to Morrison and ******....You might as well speak to the gym tea lady

[tmsbry]

So you know more than his trainer now?!?

[Jack]

I don't think Burns is the one who deserves criticism. The people to blame are his manager and promoter, who know that if Burns loses, they're fucked. They won't put him into a big fight he can lose unless there's huge money on the table.

I'm confident that Burns would fight Broner tomorrow for a reasonable amount of money. The issue are all the other people who stand to lose if Broner wins.

[icemax]

Originally Posted by tmsbry

So you know more than his trainer now?!?

Do you have a comprehension problem?

[Earl-hickey]

It's been shameful ducking, shameful.

Burns should hand the belt back imo, he's not worthy.

[Sai]

I do like Burns as a fighter, but his fans are starting to put me off (a la Pac) - How the fuck is he a bigger draw than Broner? Why should Broner have to come to fucking Scotland to fight him?

Burns is a good fighter, but it will be sad to see him fight overhyped domestic level guys in Scotland for the next 3 or 4 years before being thrown in against someone who has actually been fighting decent guys and hammered.

Broner is only getting better with each fight. Now is a better time to make it than in 2 or 3 years.

[Betty Swollocks]

Originally Posted by Trail

Typical Scot, pussying out.

Either that or W.a.rren being a cherry-picking cunt.

which Scots have pussied out of fights?

Burns is getting disappointing, but it's still a long way short of Hatton's ducking of Junior Witter.

[billy nelson]

Originally Posted by Pecsaetan

Selling tickets doesn't matter where HBO is concerned. Andre Berto and Devon Alexander have made plenty off them and neither of them can draw flies to shit. Burns might sell more in Scotland, but he isn't exactly the second coming of Hatton when it comes to tickets either. Broner will earn decent money regardless of Ricky Burns, I'm not sure the same can be said the other way around.

I wouldnt be so sure about your last statement mate

[alba]

D Taylor does make avoid point though

[dftaylor]

Originally Posted by Pecsaetan

Selling tickets doesn't matter where HBO is concerned. Andre Berto and Devon Alexander have made plenty off them and neither of them can draw flies to shit. Burns might sell more in Scotland, but he isn't exactly the second coming of Hatton when it comes to tickets either. Broner will earn decent money regardless of Ricky Burns, I'm not sure the same can be said the other way around.

Burns is earning decent money right now, regardless of Broner. It is complete nonsense to suggest Broner is a star - he just isn't. He isn't a draw, he can't sell tickets, he doesn't drive ratings - he's simply another Haymon-manufactured noise who will lose against the first decent opponent he faces. Oh wait, he already did!

These debates are one of the reasons I get fucked off with ESB. People recreate reality to suit some idiotic agenda - "Broner's the star" - what's that got to do with anything? So Ricky, a champion at two weights, has to concede everything to him?

Originally Posted by macho_grande

Broner could be long gone come May. Broner is the star & it wouldn't surprise me if GBP turn to Ricky later on & say... "You had your chance"

Broner is not a star, except in manufactured land, where people also thought Chad Dawson was a star.

You do not know what Burns was offered, or if an offer was even made. If the offer was insultingly low (very likely where GBP is involved), should Ricky take it just to appease your hurt fanboy feelings?

Originally Posted by tmsbry

you do know Broner could potentially fight Gamboa in May, where'd Ricky be then

Gamboa? Seriously? GAMBOA? Yeah, that's a MUCH better fight. Another guy who sells no tickets and has pretty much arrived at the exact level I always knew he would - nothing special.

And he's tiny too. If Burns is available to fight and Broner chooses Gamboa, it will be pretty clear he never really wanted the fight. Hopefully you'll all apply the same criticism to him at that stage.

But you won't. Cause you're fucking twats.

[Bill C84]

[Beeston Brawler]

What is it with boxing fans and getting a serious rock on for any mouth almighty American with an undefeated record that's backed by HBO?

[dftaylor]

Originally Posted by macho_grande

Let's wait & see who Burns fights next.....

When people accused Brook of ducking Bradley it was easy to brush that off as nonsense. Matchroom had long since chosen the path of IBF mandatory & they've followed that through against Alexander.

What's Ricky's path??.

More wank - Brook just didn't want to fight a guy who would have beaten him out of sight. That was the bottom line, nothing to do with the IBF.

Originally Posted by tmsbry

Billy Nelson has already said Ricky didn't want the fight in February, why can't you understand that, why are you debating offers we all know were made.

Burns didn't want the fight, Rees did!!

Well, there seems to be some debate on that. No offer was made, they had an initial discussion where Burns asked for £400,000 after tax. Schaefer said they weren't prepared to pay that.

What's Broner going to be getting?