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Old 11-18-2012, 03:10 PM   #1
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Default for good athletes transitioning to boxing, is the chin the biggest factor?

Watching Seth Mitchell yesterday can we say one of the biggest adjustments an athlete from another sport going into boxing is the ability to take a punch? Is it more than an adjustment then genetics?
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:25 PM   #3
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You can't train a chin. If it's glass, it's glass. And it sure does seem that a lot of these former football players have china in their mandibles. That must be why they make them wear helmets in their own game.
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No boxing skills are
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:08 PM   #5
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:18 PM   #6
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Was it Mitchell's chin? He didn't get knocked out cold, he just took a lot of solid punches. Punches that he didn't have the experience to ride out or to get away from. Mitchell might have a weak chin, but taking solid, direct shots will affect anybody. He didn't just take one shot and collapse, he got hit with a lot of punches.

It's going to be difficult to transition from a sport where athletes plays "tense" for 2-4 second bursts, to a sport where the athlete needs to be "relaxed" while punching and avoiding being punched for 3 minutes at a time. There isn't much carry over from football to boxing other than both sports have contact.



He was fighting Banks who wasn't even a power puncher at Cruiserweight for Christ Sakes. Imagine if that had been Wlad in there last night punching him.

Mitchell had been hurt before by other light punchers. He has a Glass Jaw. This isn't up for debate people. How can you not see this?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:19 PM   #7
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Was it Mitchell's chin? He didn't get knocked out cold, he just took a lot of solid punches. Punches that he didn't have the experience to ride out or to get away from. Mitchell might have a weak chin, but taking solid, direct shots will affect anybody. He didn't just take one shot and collapse, he got hit with a lot of punches.

It's going to be difficult to transition from a sport where athletes plays "tense" for 2-4 second bursts, to a sport where the athlete needs to be "relaxed" while punching and avoiding being punched for 3 minutes at a time. There isn't much carry over from football to boxing other than both sports have contact.
very good point that i dont see too many making
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:21 PM   #8
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Thing is while his chin is bad but his skills were abnormally overrated!!!
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:37 PM   #9
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From last night's performance, Mitchel may have been first hurt by a glancing left and the follow up punches were more solid.

It is just that alot of times I see athletes trying boxing and sure they get outboxed, but they also show a chin that doesn't have the quality for boxing.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:56 PM   #10
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In the gym where I go, a lot of kids who started boxing a month ago box better then Mitchell
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:08 PM   #11
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Watching Seth Mitchell yesterday can we say one of the biggest adjustments an athlete from another sport going into boxing is the ability to take a punch? Is it more than an adjustment then genetics?
I'd say their willing ability to learn and apply that knowledge in the ring is more important than any physical abilities. Boxing is a mental sport, first and foremost, not a physical one. This is why I don't have any respect for the NFL argument regarding the lack of American heavyweights; it just doesn't hold any water either historically or when you look at the qualities needed to succeed in the sport itself.

Sergio Martinez remains the only high profile fighter who came to boxing at a late age from another sport (soccer and cycling) and found success, and his chin isn't the reason he's done so.
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Old 11-18-2012, 06:18 PM   #12
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boxing skills and things you do on instincts are. things that are second nature to fighters that started as a youth are things that young adults who started have to think about. hopefully mithchel can come back from this. don't like to see any fighter ruined but he clearly looked like he folded under pressure even after the first knock down like he was about to cry. a fighter with good amatuer background would of gotten up stayed calm weather the storm and lose the round but tie him up or try to run.
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A good grasp of solid fundamentals is essential. Experience, in other words. You can't expect a guy to learn in three or four years what it takes basically a lifetime to learn.
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boxing skills and things you do on instincts are. things that are second nature to fighters that started as a youth are things that young adults who started have to think about.
100% true.
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