Is Froch a warrior by default?

FloydWillnever · 11-19-2012, 05:24 AM

Right...

People say he's been fighting everybody (even in their back yard) but has he been doing this because he had too? Carl Froch was unknown to British casuals until he reached the final of the Super 6.

If he hadn't fought in the Super 6 he'd never of made any serious money (not even sure he had mega purses in the Super 6). Before the Super 6 he'd not of even sold 4,000 tickets in Nottingham.

Then as soon as he's known to all the casuals and a ticket seller he suddenly takes on a bum. Had Froch has the popularity of Brook early on would his resume be so extensive?

I just can't help but think he's got this "warrior" tag by default. Without the Super 6 do you think he'd of taken all those fights (in the places they happened) i.e Kessler in Denmark?

sniffmybadger · 11-19-2012, 05:39 AM

He was fighting for Hennessy before he had a tv deal. He was never going to get the attention he deserved

Earl-hickey · 11-19-2012, 05:40 AM

That doesn't even make sense.

"Is carl Froch a warrior because he fought a load of tough fights what HE SIGNED UP FOR"

trotter · 11-19-2012, 05:43 AM

I think he would, yes. No evidence to suggest otherwise.

He wanted to fight Joe for years, he has travelled to fight the best around, and clearly wants to rematch Kessler and Ward.

Beeston Brawler · 11-19-2012, 05:59 AM

Yes, the fact that he's well paid for those fights doesn't alter anything.

It's not as if he's been on minimum wage and then someone has said ''we'll offer you £1m to fight X''

Like Peter McNeeley for instance. Or Julius Francis.

chatty · 11-19-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FloydWillnever

Right...

People say he's been fighting everybody (even in their back yard) but has he been doing this because he had too? Carl Froch was unknown to British casuals until he reached the final of the Super 6.

If he hadn't fought in the Super 6 he'd never of made any serious money (not even sure he had mega purses in the Super 6). Before the Super 6 he'd not of even sold 4,000 tickets in Nottingham.

Then as soon as he's known to all the casuals and a ticket seller he suddenly takes on a bum. Had Froch has the popularity of Brook early on would his resume be so extensive?

I just can't help but think he's got this "warrior" tag by default. Without the Super 6 do you think he'd of taken all those fights (in the places they happened) i.e Kessler in Denmark?

To be fair the fight was offered to Kessler, Oousthuzien and Pavlik but none wanted it.

Redondo5 · 11-19-2012, 06:19 AM

His classic encounters with Pascal and Kessler prove he is a warrior, regardless of where they were fought. Also his comeback last second KO of Taylor defending his title away showed hsi Warriors heart

He's had his poor performances as well, like Dirrell but everyone has his poor days

FloydWillnever · 11-19-2012, 06:30 AM

Why do people think I’m slating him, I’m not - some people are way too defensive over their favourite fighters!

The fights mentioned are fights he took during the Super 6, what I'm asking was if he had say the popularity of Lucian Bute, would he have ever entered the Super 6 in the first place?

Had he been able to sell 10,000+ tickets regardless of his opposition, I don't think he'd have had his current resume, but obviously we'll never know.

It's easier to be a warrior on the road, when you can't shift tickets at home.

Paup snith · 11-19-2012, 06:55 AM

By default of what?

achillesthegreat · 11-19-2012, 07:07 AM

Why continue to take tough fights while out of the Super 6 if it was simply money.

Froch has fought the very best at every level. Even on the British scene he fought em all and cleaned up.

Paup snith · 11-19-2012, 07:11 AM

Just read wazza's s*n column (not on their website, just on the FW website) and it's quite ironic how his comments (which are extremly out of order, considering froch outshines anything any of his fighters have done) are followed by a snippet about cleverly. Now Wazza bangs on about how abraham and taylor were long in the tooth middelweights. Shall we make a comparison of those two, who were genuine world champion versus cleverly last fights v hawk, kapency and bellew, who all, with the greatest of respect could not at this moment in time hold a candle to the likes of taylor and abraham.
I think that it is highly disrespectful to a current, legit world champ. He must be soooo bitter that he never got a bite of froch when he left hennesy. Wazza does a lot of good things for boxing, but doesn't half let himself down with some of the bull shit he comes out with in his column.

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FloydWillnever Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bolton, home of Amir Khan and Peter Kay. Posts: 404 vCash: 500	Is Froch a warrior by default? Right... People say he's been fighting everybody (even in their back yard) but has he been doing this because he had too? Carl Froch was unknown to British casuals until he reached the final of the Super 6. If he hadn't fought in the Super 6 he'd never of made any serious money (not even sure he had mega purses in the Super 6). Before the Super 6 he'd not of even sold 4,000 tickets in Nottingham. Then as soon as he's known to all the casuals and a ticket seller he suddenly takes on a bum. Had Froch has the popularity of Brook early on would his resume be so extensive? I just can't help but think he's got this "warrior" tag by default. Without the Super 6 do you think he'd of taken all those fights (in the places they happened) i.e Kessler in Denmark?
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11-19-2012, 05:39 AM	#2
sniffmybadger trust me I'm a stomach ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Hammersmith Posts: 750 vCash: 75	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? He was fighting for Hennessy before he had a tv deal. He was never going to get the attention he deserved
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Earl-hickey Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 10,024 vCash: 765	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? That doesn't even make sense. "Is carl Froch a warrior because he fought a load of tough fights what HE SIGNED UP FOR"
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trotter Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,689 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? I think he would, yes. No evidence to suggest otherwise. He wanted to fight Joe for years, he has travelled to fight the best around, and clearly wants to rematch Kessler and Ward.
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Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 35,250 vCash: 75	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? Yes, the fact that he's well paid for those fights doesn't alter anything. It's not as if he's been on minimum wage and then someone has said ''we'll offer you £1m to fight X'' Like Peter McNeeley for instance. Or Julius Francis.
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Redondo5 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,592 vCash: 4380	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? His classic encounters with Pascal and Kessler prove he is a warrior, regardless of where they were fought. Also his comeback last second KO of Taylor defending his title away showed hsi Warriors heart He's had his poor performances as well, like Dirrell but everyone has his poor days
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FloydWillnever Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bolton, home of Amir Khan and Peter Kay. Posts: 404 vCash: 500	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? Why do people think I’m slating him, I’m not - some people are way too defensive over their favourite fighters! The fights mentioned are fights he took during the Super 6, what I'm asking was if he had say the popularity of Lucian Bute, would he have ever entered the Super 6 in the first place? Had he been able to sell 10,000+ tickets regardless of his opposition, I don't think he'd have had his current resume, but obviously we'll never know. It's easier to be a warrior on the road, when you can't shift tickets at home.
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11-19-2012, 06:55 AM	#9
Paup snith P4P most avoided champ ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Dark side of the moon Posts: 193 vCash: 500	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? By default of what?
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achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,198 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? Why continue to take tough fights while out of the Super 6 if it was simply money. Froch has fought the very best at every level. Even on the British scene he fought em all and cleaned up.
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11-19-2012, 07:11 AM	#11
Paup snith P4P most avoided champ ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Dark side of the moon Posts: 193 vCash: 500	Re: Is Froch a warrior by default? Just read wazza's s*n column (not on their website, just on the FW website) and it's quite ironic how his comments (which are extremly out of order, considering froch outshines anything any of his fighters have done) are followed by a snippet about cleverly. Now Wazza bangs on about how abraham and taylor were long in the tooth middelweights. Shall we make a comparison of those two, who were genuine world champion versus cleverly last fights v hawk, kapency and bellew, who all, with the greatest of respect could not at this moment in time hold a candle to the likes of taylor and abraham. I think that it is highly disrespectful to a current, legit world champ. He must be soooo bitter that he never got a bite of froch when he left hennesy. Wazza does a lot of good things for boxing, but doesn't half let himself down with some of the bull shit he comes out with in his column.
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