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Old 02-04-2008, 12:55 AM   #16
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Marciano-Walcott I
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:57 AM   #17
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Which fighter of Marciano Walcott 1>?? They both took pretty bad beatings.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:35 AM   #18
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Diego Corrales vs Castillo sure hes passed on now but his career was dead after that 1st fight.
Rocky had a "nose-plant" after the 2nd Charles fight which
probably wasn't covered by typical insurance plans.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:02 AM   #19
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Jorge Fernando Castro TKO9 John David Jackson.
That would be my pick...he was not really even into that fight! Jackson had him on the ropes and was hammering again...when he drops his hands and...goodbye!
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:30 AM   #20
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Yeah, the referee was coming in to save Castro when Castro lands the winning punch.

Barkley took a bit of a beating (for a 3-rounder) against Hearns before KOing him.

I remember Carl Thompson took a bit of a hammering then beat a guy called Rothman a few years back. Then a few months later Thompson was getting battered early on by David Haye, then came back to KO Haye !
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:10 PM   #21
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:20 PM   #22
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Ali took a lot of punishment against Frazier in their third. Also Moore took a beating agianst Durelle in there first he got battered in the first round.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:11 PM   #23
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He was mentally beaten even before the actual Ali fight. He had an entire continent against him and he was so paranoid he had his food flown in because he was terrified it was being poisoned.

He got right up after Ali dropped him and walked back to his corner.

He was just mentally beaten, I'd say.
I feel you have made a very legitimate point there...Maybe he wasn't broken mentally before(?) the fight, but he definitely was during the fight...Engaging Ali on a stage like that would have an incredible challenge psychologically...I can't imagine it...Problably the most daunting situation any fighter has ever experienced in boxing history...I haven't read his books, but I've read Foreman has stated he could have gotten up in that instance, but did not...and it truly haunted him...for over twenty years!
I feel it affected Foreman's mindset in his fights following Ali and in his comeback 10 years later. I remember Foreman saying something to the effect when questioned about his fight with Lyle, "I was willing to die for it....sometimes, you have to be willing to die for it..." (sorry. I can't remember the source)
In his comeback, Foreman would walk through some hellstorms, namely that Holyfield 20 punch combination (or so) in their fight...That Gentlemen was nothing short of incredible...and the punishment he endured from teh likes of Stewart and Moorer, to go forward and win...
Foreman, with his religious conviction, said the only thing he feared anymore was the Lord...and he fought that way! A very, very determined opponent to face in the ring...
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:08 AM   #24
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I feel you have made a very legitimate point there...Maybe he wasn't broken mentally before(?) the fight, but he definitely was during the fight...Engaging Ali on a stage like that would have an incredible challenge psychologically...I can't imagine it...Problably the most daunting situation any fighter has ever experienced in boxing history...I haven't read his books, but I've read Foreman has stated he could have gotten up in that instance, but did not...and it truly haunted him...for over twenty years!
I feel it affected Foreman's mindset in his fights following Ali and in his comeback 10 years later. I remember Foreman saying something to the effect when questioned about his fight with Lyle, "I was willing to die for it....sometimes, you have to be willing to die for it..." (sorry. I can't remember the source)
In his comeback, Foreman would walk through some hellstorms, namely that Holyfield 20 punch combination (or so) in their fight...That Gentlemen was nothing short of incredible...and the punishment he endured from teh likes of Stewart and Moorer, to go forward and win...
Foreman, with his religious conviction, said the only thing he feared anymore was the Lord...and he fought that way! A very, very determined opponent to face in the ring...
The Ali-Foreman fight was very strange...beginning with Foreman getting his eye cut in training and the fight delayed a month. And you had Don King just getting going in boxing promoting with rights to the winner I am sure. Remember Liston lost it all for the "second' fight when Ali had to have a hernia operation and that fight got delayed too....with Ali coming out on top.
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:18 AM   #25
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The Rock in the 1st Walcott fight! Knocked down for the fist time...cut...blinded for 3 rounds...behind on all score cards...then BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:23 AM   #26
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Recently a fighter died after winning in Asia.

Benn-McCellan - Benn was ruined after that fight
Eubank-Watson 2
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:26 AM   #27
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How about Leotis Martin vs. Sonny Liston?
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:54 AM   #28
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Michael Katsidis decision Czar Amonsot
Rocky Graziano kayo Tony Zale(second fight)
Mathew Saad Muhammad kayo Marvin Johnson(second fight)
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:34 PM   #29
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Maybe Frazier, who was in horrible shape after his first fight with Ali.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:06 AM   #30
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Michael Katsidis decision Czar Amonsot
Great pick. Katsidis' face was grotesquely swollen after that fight, not to mention that vicious cut as well.

Barkley v Hearns 1 - Iran took a beating for a while there.
Marciano v Charles 2 - ugly cut on the nose, plus cuts under eyes.
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