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Old 11-21-2012, 03:36 AM   #76
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Default Re: Broner officially cracks P4P. Ahead of Froch!

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he wont lose to Burns. Froch lost to the three best people he has fought
this is true but he also beat top notch dudes and had very close fights with Dirrell and Kessler that coulda gone either way (hometown made sense that Froch got it even though I scored it to Dirrell, Kessler edged it imo and Denamerk gave it to their boy but if in England Froch mighta got it). he souldn't be faulted for a couple very close losses for being old school and fighting everyone like a G. Wards number 2 so who cares if he lost to him clearly. Froch is the man and a rarity in the sport.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:45 AM   #77
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this is true but he also beat top notch dudes and had very close fights with Dirrell and Kessler that coulda gone either way (hometown made sense that Froch got it even though I scored it to Dirrell, Kessler edged it imo and Denamerk gave it to their boy but if in England Froch mighta got it). he souldn't be faulted for a couple very close losses for being old school and fighting everyone like a G. Wards number 2 so who cares if he lost to him clearly. Froch is the man and a rarity in the sport.
you are giving him pfpf points for taking fights? He fought those guys because he was in the super 6. Should the Nets get credit for playing the Lakers last night even though they lost?
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:59 AM   #78
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you are giving him pfpf points for taking fights? He fought those guys because he was in the super 6. Should the Nets get credit for playing the Lakers last night even though they lost?
what about JMM then?
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:04 AM   #79
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he wont lose to Burns. Froch lost to the three best people he has fought
shut up you dumb cunt

I thought Hatton beat Mayweather, therefore its as true as Dirrell beating Froch.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:05 AM   #80
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you are giving him pfpf points for taking fights? He fought those guys because he was in the super 6. Should the Nets get credit for playing the Lakers last night even though they lost?
he could have kept his belt and refused to fight outside nottingham like another ***** we all know of, If Kessler and Froch were as ***** as Ward...he would still have no belts as he wouldnt have left home for them with his glass passport
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:17 AM   #81
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typical hype job - just like p4p lists in the past that have had Pavlik, Williams, Dawson etc. in them.

Dawson - top 10 p4p, Pascal beats him he drops out (no one even suggests that Pascal should go near the top 10 p4p). Dawson beats Hopkins and is put there or thereabouts.

I bet if Broner loses to Burns he will drop down only to magically appear in the top 10 p4p after beating a couple of stiffs.

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:24 AM   #82
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you are giving him pfpf points for taking fights? He fought those guys because he was in the super 6. Should the Nets get credit for playing the Lakers last night even though they lost?
The same then can be said for Ward run of fights, but with more negativity added seeing as he only fought in the tourney with the condition he had all his fights at home.

Since then Froch busted Bute all Ward could due was tell Bute to prove himself rather than man up and face Bute and get the credit he would have deserved if he`d have fought Bute but insteadhe tried to take credit from Froch beating Bute..

As for Broner time will tell, to me hes already lost a fight to Ponce, As for Demarco he let the red mist come down and handed himself to Broner on a sacrificial platter, Burns will not be so daft
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:27 AM   #83
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broner hasn't fought anyone

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:37 AM   #84
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Froch



Pascal

Taylor

Dirrel

Kessler - L

Abraham

Johnson

Ward - L

Bute

Mack - not good



Broner



De Leon - alot have that fight as a L

Litzau - Not that good

Perez - Not that good

Demarco



Broner has 2 good fighters in his resume, Froch has half a dozen









He is not



Some fighters that don't feature on most top 10's (rightfully in my opinion)



Alexander



Witter

Urango

Kotelnyk

Bradley - L

Mathysse - Big Puncher many had it as a L

Maidana - Out of shape but still a big puncher

Bailey - old but a KO artist



Khan

MAB - old and small, but khan was young, Former Champ

Kotelnyk -Champ

Salita - Mandatory

Mallininaggi - Former/Future Champ

Maidana - at his peak

McCloskey - top 10

Judah - Unification fight

Peterson - Drug cheat, disputed L

Garcia



Also fought good tough fighters in Limond, Earl, Gomez
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:46 AM   #85
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Froch? The guy who should've lost a decision to Dirrell? The guy who got beaten by past it Kessler? The guy who got shut out by Andre Ward? All at super middle? How could Froch be considered on a pound for pound list when he's not even close to being number one in his own weight division?
That's usually the way I see it. If a fighter already lost to the best in their division then how can they qualify for pound for pound status?

All respect to Froch though. I do think he could beat Kessler in a rematch - but he hasn't yet. So at present he would still have to be ranked #3 in his own division - behind the two men he lost to - Kessler and Ward.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:59 AM   #86
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say Froch beats Broner.

Not speaking in a p4p sense, mind you - but h2h.



Yeah, I'm willing to put my rep on the line and stand by that claim.
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