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Old 11-14-2012, 05:31 PM   #1
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Default Just watched Wlad vs Wach: A few thoughts....

First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab. There's no snap on it, he spends most of the time pawing with it - and after he throws that conviction-less jab of his, he drops his left hand down to his waist inviting a counter right hand. Definitely not ATG stuff here.

Also, Wlad's right hand power is grotesquely overrated by the Klit lickers in this forum. Comparing Wlad's right hand to that of Lennox Lewis is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a high end Ferrari. Lennox throws his right hand with more conviction, more confidence, better technique and better leverage. IOW, in terms of right hand power, Lennox is in another league. I saw Wach each flush right hands from the opening round to the final stanza and at no time did I think he was in danger of being stopped. Wlad, OTOH, had a few deer-n-headlight moments.

Lastly, Wlad's stamina is an issue. To me, he looked gassed after the 8th after unloading on Wach - and Wach was STILL coming forward for the remainder of the fight.

I watched that fight thinking what a prime or near prime Evander Holyfield would do to that disgrace of a HW "Champion".
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:35 PM   #2
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Holyfield beats both Klits. Stops Wlad ans smokes Armpuncher Vitali.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:35 PM   #3
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I agree with all of that.

Yet post fight people on here were arguing wlad had broken into the top 5.atg list based on that win
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:42 PM   #4
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I agree with all of that.

Yet post fight people on here were arguing wlad had broken into the top 5.atg list based on that win
Lol.

They've been drinking the Klitschko Kool-Aid....
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:45 PM   #5
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Holyfield beats both Klits. Stops Wlad ans smokes Armpuncher Vitali.
If you're for real, I am for real 2. Put Evander in there with either man and let Evander fight the best he can. Let's c if he ends up in the Hospital or hearing a close decision call from the judges.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:47 PM   #6
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I like the guy, will be watching him this weekend. But am I the only one not thinking this brushing his hair schtick is pretty stupid? It seems like fat Dan keeps it going. I dunno, I just dont get it? And it actually makes me cringe and feel bad for his 800lb father when he brushes his hair. Its kinda disrespectful and looks like a circus act with this fat man brushing a boxers hair in the ring???
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:50 PM   #7
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An old Holyfield would beat both Klits

hence why they continue to duck him saying something about his age when they regularly fight 40 year old has beens
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:50 PM   #8
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I like the guy, will be watching him this weekend. But am I the only one not thinking this brushing his hair schtick is pretty stupid? It seems like fat Dan keeps it going. I dunno, I just dont get it? And it actually makes me cringe and feel bad for his 800lb father when he brushes his hair. Its kinda disrespectful and looks like a circus act with this fat man brushing a boxers hair in the ring???
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:51 PM   #9
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Holmes fought in the worst era of heavy weight boxing ever, his jab against tomato cans means nothing.
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I like the guy, will be watching him this weekend. But am I the only one not thinking this brushing his hair schtick is pretty stupid? It seems like fat Dan keeps it going. I dunno, I just dont get it? And it actually makes me cringe and feel bad for his 800lb father when he brushes his hair. Its kinda disrespectful and looks like a circus act with this fat man brushing a boxers hair in the ring???
I like the guy, will be watching him this weekend. But am I the only one not thinking this brushing his hair schtick is pretty stupid? It seems like fat Dan keeps it going. I dunno, I just dont get it? And it actually makes me cringe and feel bad for his 800lb father when he brushes his hair. Its kinda disrespectful and looks like a circus act with this fat man brushing a boxers hair in the ring???
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:56 PM   #11
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Holmes fought in the worst era of heavy weight boxing ever, his jab against tomato cans means nothing.
In what other era does Wach get a title fight of this magnitude?
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First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab. There's no snap on it, he spends most of the time pawing with it - and after he throws that conviction-less jab of his, he drops his left hand down to his waist inviting a counter right hand. Definitely not ATG stuff here.

Also, Wlad's right hand power is grotesquely overrated by the Klit lickers in this forum. Comparing Wlad's right hand to that of Lennox Lewis is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a high end Ferrari. Lennox throws his right hand with more conviction, more confidence, better technique and better leverage. IOW, in terms of right hand power, Lennox is in another league. I saw Wach each flush right hands from the opening round to the final stanza and at no time did I think he was in danger of being stopped. Wlad, OTOH, had a few deer-n-headlight moments.

Lastly, Wlad's stamina is an issue. To me, he looked gassed after the 8th after unloading on Wach - and Wach was STILL coming forward for the remainder of the fight.

I watched that fight thinking what a prime or near prime Evander Holyfield would do to that disgrace of a HW "Champion".

I think Wladimir beats Holyfield by decision....
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:59 PM   #13
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First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab. There's no snap on it, he spends most of the time pawing with it - and after he throws that conviction-less jab of his, he drops his left hand down to his waist inviting a counter right hand. Definitely not ATG stuff here.

Also, Wlad's right hand power is grotesquely overrated by the Klit lickers in this forum. Comparing Wlad's right hand to that of Lennox Lewis is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a high end Ferrari. Lennox throws his right hand with more conviction, more confidence, better technique and better leverage. IOW, in terms of right hand power, Lennox is in another league. I saw Wach each flush right hands from the opening round to the final stanza and at no time did I think he was in danger of being stopped. Wlad, OTOH, had a few deer-n-headlight moments.

Lastly, Wlad's stamina is an issue. To me, he looked gassed after the 8th after unloading on Wach - and Wach was STILL coming forward for the remainder of the fight.

I watched that fight thinking what a prime or near prime Evander Holyfield would do to that disgrace of a HW "Champion".
LOL Wlad was in more trouble in that single round where he was on the ropes than Wach was in the entire fight

Wlad was nearly dropped again while Wach wasn't even close to going down for all 12 rounds
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First off, Wach is nothing more than a 6'7" walking punching bag. No head movement, no jab, shit for balance - essentially he's par for the course that is Wlad's typical opponent.

As far as the Baby Klit is concerned, anyone who thinks this guy has one of the best jabs in HW history is seriously DELUSIONAL and needs to go watch some films of Larry Holmes or Sonny Liston. Those guys had ATG jabs. Wlad, OTOH has absolute SHIT for a jab. There's no snap on it, he spends most of the time pawing with it - and after he throws that conviction-less jab of his, he drops his left hand down to his waist inviting a counter right hand. Definitely not ATG stuff here.

Also, Wlad's right hand power is grotesquely overrated by the Klit lickers in this forum. Comparing Wlad's right hand to that of Lennox Lewis is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a high end Ferrari. Lennox throws his right hand with more conviction, more confidence, better technique and better leverage. IOW, in terms of right hand power, Lennox is in another league. I saw Wach each flush right hands from the opening round to the final stanza and at no time did I think he was in danger of being stopped. Wlad, OTOH, had a few deer-n-headlight moments.

Lastly, Wlad's stamina is an issue. To me, he looked gassed after the 8th after unloading on Wach - and Wach was STILL coming forward for the remainder of the fight.

I watched that fight thinking what a prime or near prime Evander Holyfield would do to that disgrace of a HW "Champion".
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I like the guy, will be watching him this weekend. But am I the only one not thinking this brushing his hair schtick is pretty stupid? It seems like fat Dan keeps it going. I dunno, I just dont get it? And it actually makes me cringe and feel bad for his 800lb father when he brushes his hair. Its kinda disrespectful and looks like a circus act with this fat man brushing a boxers hair in the ring???
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