Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Australian Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-26-2012, 06:08 PM   #1
swingin
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,501
vCash: 500
Default the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

reading 'the e myth', or even the pulp classic, 'rich dad poor dad', one realises that to be successful in business, a model should be created. in short, what this model is supposed to achieve is 'predictable results and outcomes'. profitable AND predictable results.

totalpac, recently wanked off over chauncy wellivers 'great business model'. what he was really championing was how welliver created predictable results, ie; fight bums and pad a record to achive a higher ranking in an alphabet boxing body. a path demori is obviously taking..

the problem with the 'boxing buisness model' (BBM) that welliver used and demori admires is that the 'product they are selling' is a fake. the first time they step out of their BBM and fight an opponent with credentials, they move from their BBM that demands a 'predictable result or outcome'.

we saw what happened to welliver when he took just a small 'risk' with tank williams. welliver got beaten, and his BBM falls over, his credibility becomes 'bankrupt', and his days as a fighter are over. the same will happen with demori, IF he ever goes outside his BBM.

real fighters dont need a BBM. they may get financial advice, and employ a promotions manager if they are good enough (chris john should have one, there would be indonesian companies lining up for him to be the face of their products).

the BBM is really just bums fleecing an unknowing public of cash, further destroying the reputation of boxing. real fighters climb the ladder. they fight the best they can handle. take their losses and learn.

BBM= BUM!




.

Last edited by swingin; 09-26-2012 at 06:50 PM.
swingin is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 09-26-2012, 06:56 PM   #2
fighta29
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 892
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

All true. This can be achieved at different levels of boxing also, both domestic and international. A fighter can be "seen" to be stepping up, but is still well within his comfort zone. The business of boxing
fighta29 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #3
Totalpac
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 719
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

I only hope we get to see how sound MDM's plans have been, then both you, I and everyone else will know the truth.
Totalpac is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 07:14 PM   #4
The Spider
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
vCash:
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Totalpac View Post
I only hope we get to see how sound MDM's plans have been, then both you, I and everyone else will know the truth.
It's one of life's great mysteries how de Mori has managed to attained WBC #20 ranking. I guess you could refer to having Don King get you a rating way beyond your achievements as a "plan".
 Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 07:16 PM   #5
leftrip
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Auckland
Posts: 309
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by fighta29 View Post
All true. This can be achieved at different levels of boxing also, both domestic and international. A fighter can be "seen" to be stepping up, but is still well within his comfort zone. The business of boxing
Who the **** have these two frauds been stepping up against to earn fraudulent ranking in a whore of an organisation like wBC
leftrip is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 10:31 PM   #6
fighta29
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 892
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrip View Post
Who the **** have these two frauds been stepping up against to earn fraudulent ranking in a whore of an organisation like wBC
Exactly right. To the boxing savvy, its obvious. To the pulic sheep, its not.
fighta29 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 11:06 PM   #7
leftrip
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Auckland
Posts: 309
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by fighta29 View Post
Exactly right. To the boxing savvy, its obvious. To the pulic sheep, its not.
These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip
leftrip is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 11:13 PM   #8
fighta29
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 892
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrip View Post
These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip
this
fighta29 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2012, 11:15 PM   #9
fighta29
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 892
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrip View Post
These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip
"Champion" Fighters emerge 2 ways.

1. Out of struggle

2. WIth a ****load of money spent on them
fighta29 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2012, 12:35 AM   #10
leftrip
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Auckland
Posts: 309
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by fighta29 View Post
"Champion" Fighters emerge 2 ways.

1. Out of struggle

2. WIth a ****load of money spent on them
True you know which option these ****wits have taken to get where they are
leftrip is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2012, 01:13 AM   #11
Totalpac
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Perth, WA
Posts: 719
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by leftrip View Post
These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip
Also great to be strong enough to not get sucked in to the 'written life script' of school, get a big mortgage, hate work, hate marriage, retire at 65 then die saying all the while 'life sucks' and taking your own sadness/bitterness out on others.

Chasing your dreams doesn't take money, it takes courage and strength. When you have both of those you encourage others no matter whether they are Mike Tyson or Kim Kardasian.

All power to anyone chasing their dreams, I have love for them all.
Totalpac is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2012, 01:13 AM   #12
peterm
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 472
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Maybe there all waiting for the klichcos to retire and with a bodgy high ranking can fight for a world title?
peterm is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2012, 01:24 AM   #13
leftrip
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Auckland
Posts: 309
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Totalpac View Post
Also great to be strong enough to not get sucked in to the 'written life script' of school, get a big mortgage, hate work, hate marriage, retire at 65 then die saying all the while 'life sucks' and taking your own sadness/bitterness out on others.

Chasing your dreams doesn't take money, it takes courage and strength. When you have both of those you encourage others no matter whether they are Mike Tyson or Kim Kardasian.

All power to anyone chasing their dreams, I have love for them all.
No i just want to see good well matched meaningful fights not hand picked opponents then trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the public thank **** these guys are not on mainstream meia only the only media stuff. I have nothing against people trying to aspire to their goals and dreams but these two are chumps trying to make fools of the boxing public with their hand picked opponents and pseudo media write ups trying to bluff their way to a title shot

Last edited by leftrip; 09-27-2012 at 01:35 AM.
leftrip is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2012, 07:35 AM   #14
MrFishChampion
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 261
vCash: 250
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

I think Demori and Welliver are smart

its a good buisiness plan if Demori was more active and Welliver would win em all

for famous examples I would say

Hasim Rahman
George Foreman
Shannon "the Cannon" Briggs

they created 'Ballyhoo' fighting a lot of bums sometimes a string of them in a row. But then they would take on the toughest guys in the world fearlessly

inexperienced Derrek Chisora fought the tough guys and lost
MrFishChampion is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2012, 08:57 AM   #15
Bwgcolman
Gatekeeper
ESB Full Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 317
vCash: 500
Default Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

Saw Demori about 7 years ago in a gym sparring a novice amateur heavyweight and he was getting outclassed, so it's a testament to the busisness brains that are behind him that he has got this far with such little boxing fundamentals and ability.

It's also a sad indication of how boxing has fallen so far in that someone like him can be taken seriously and rated so highly.

I suppose all the hungry young big fellas with sporting ability are playing some code of football and not interested in boxing, but that makes sense, it's not as demanding, pays better, gets more recognition and is better supported throughout junior development.
Bwgcolman is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Australian Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013