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Old 11-19-2012, 06:38 AM   #1
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Default Are Bute's speed overrated?

I think it is, i mean people compared his speed to Ward, but to be honest it's not like he was very faster than Froch, maybe a little bit. I think he has decent speed, maybe a little faster than Kessler but not much.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:42 AM   #2
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He is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Its decent, obviously not blindingly.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:43 AM   #3
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He is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Its decent, obviously not blindingly.
Yeah that what i was thinking, but people overrated his speed
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:48 AM   #4
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He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:50 AM   #5
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Yeah that what i was thinking, but people overrated his speed
I think he has good timing, and is fluid when throwing his shots.


Ive never watched him and thought jeez this guy is fast
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:04 AM   #6
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He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.
I think he is a little faster than Kessler, but not much. So yeah i probably agree with you and good points. Froch is very awkward and Bute's defense is... yeah to say it right away: bullshit
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:09 AM   #7
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Handspeed: decent
Reflexes: average
Footspeed: average/poor
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:17 AM   #8
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He's probably behind Ward and Dirrell in therms of speed. Froch's stance is more bothering, and Bute's deference is vulnerable to some of Froch's best shots.
Bute likes to plant his feet in a fairly wide stance & his primary means of defence is upperbody/head movement. He's good at slipping single shots but doesnt have the reflexes to avoid combinations & sustained attacks.

Froch was able to land so often because after he stepped in with his left foot Bute didnt readjust & ended up squared up. By not using much lateral movement Bute spent a lot of the fight going straight backwards & onto the ropes.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:05 AM   #9
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Handspeed: decent
Reflexes: average
Footspeed: average/poor
This is because you watched only his last fight. Check Bute vs. Andrade II! He's very fast. Ward has only better footwork than him.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:21 AM   #10
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This is because you watched only his last fight. Check Bute vs. Andrade II! He's very fast. Ward has only better footwork than him.
...and hand speed, defense, array of punches, ring IQ, technique, heart, reflexes, infighting, outfighting, pretty much everything really.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:26 AM   #11
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No just Bute .He was overrated !
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:33 AM   #12
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Bute likes to plant his feet in a fairly wide stance & his primary means of defence is upperbody/head movement. He's good at slipping single shots but doesnt have the reflexes to avoid combinations & sustained attacks.

Froch was able to land so often because after he stepped in with his left foot Bute didnt readjust & ended up squared up. By not using much lateral movement Bute spent a lot of the fight going straight backwards & onto the ropes.
Interesting read. Thanks.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:46 AM   #13
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This is because you watched only his last fight. Check Bute vs. Andrade II! He's very fast. Ward has only better footwork than him.
The only area where Ward matches Bute is footwork?
Is that your conclusion?
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:55 AM   #14
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I think he is a little faster than Kessler, but not much. So yeah i probably agree with you and good points. Froch is very awkward and Bute's defense is... yeah to say it right away: bullshit
He is not faster then Kessler!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:57 AM   #15
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He is not faster then Kessler!
TBH Kessler isn't as near as fast as Kessler who fought Calzaghe.
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