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Old 11-21-2012, 03:38 AM   #1
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Default What happened to Sergiy Dzinziruk?

I remember when Sergio Martinez/Dzinziruk was a pretty big fight.

Dzinziruk was pretty much atop the division -- just curious on how he completely fell out of the top-10 after just one loss (to a top-5 P4P) and a draw?

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Old 11-21-2012, 04:05 AM   #2
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I believe he contemplated not returning to boxing after a fight to defend his JMW belt fell through, came back and was a bit lucky to get a draw against a not-particularly-well-regarded prospect who'd come in overweight for an HBO showing. That's it. In the span of two years he went from being regarded as maybe the top light middleweight, undefeated, never dropped, to being knocked down for the first time, then knocked out for the first time, though at a higher weight to being stripped of his belt to squeaking by with a draw and considered irrelevant, in just two fights. But, yeah, he hasn't won a fight at any weight in over two years, so...what can you do?
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:39 AM   #3
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I thought he was the top 154 going into the Sergio fight at 160.

Disappointed that he hasn't fought to show if he is still on that level. If he had, I would have been interested to see how he matched up against several of the guys there.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:14 AM   #4
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Sergio took his soul
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:17 AM   #5
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He was a nobody who was built up to be hand fed to a weak MW champ, and after the buildup was no longer necessary he returned to the middle of the road obscurity he came form.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:10 AM   #6
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He was a nobody who was built up to be hand fed to a weak MW champ, and after the buildup was no longer necessary he returned to the middle of the road obscurity he came form.
There is not much of what I read of yours that I would normaly agree on, but you have this spot on in my opinion..Someone here says he was never knocked down!! But when you look into who he fought ( and who they fought ) at what stage in thier career and where he fought them it all becomes clear...
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:28 AM   #7
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Sergio sent him back to gulag.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:30 AM   #8
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He was a nobody who was built up to be hand fed to a weak MW champ, and after the buildup was no longer necessary he returned to the middle of the road obscurity he came form.
Quoted for truth.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:31 AM   #9
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He was a nobody who was built up to be hand fed to a weak MW champ, and after the buildup was no longer necessary he returned to the middle of the road obscurity he came form.
Kind of agree with this. Although he wasnt as bad as your making him out to be
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:15 AM   #10
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He was a nobody who was built up to be hand fed to a weak MW champ, and after the buildup was no longer necessary he returned to the middle of the road obscurity he came form.
Who had a better resume than him at 154 in 2010? And how could he have been built up to be fed to Martinez when his promoter did not want the fight and the only reason it was made at all was because Shaw extracted huge concessions for making Bradley-Alexander?
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:01 AM   #11
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He was a nobody who was built up to be hand fed to a weak MW champ, and after the buildup was no longer necessary he returned to the middle of the road obscurity he came form.
C'mon, this is complete bullshit, no offense. Martinez wasn't even a champ when Dzinziruk was 'built up'. He was arguably the top dog at 154 for a while (though the division was admittedly weak then), got caught up with promotional difficulties, and got old, plus he was a fairly straightforward fighter to begin with. He beat three guys who were considered to be top 5 in his weight class at the times he beat them, and was fed a bunch of dreck in between because he was with Universum and that's what they did to their fighters. He was never a big 154 pounder to begin with, and probably had no business fighting at 160, but he took a big fight when he could get it.

He was already starting to fade by the time he fought (and soundly beat) Joel Julio, who was a top 5 154 lber at the time. The Konecny fight was a war that took a lot out of him. If you look before the Sergio fight, you'll see I said all of this back then too.

As for why he's not still rated - well, it's been 4 years since he beat someone decent. That's reason enough. He looked like crap in his last fight, like someone who just doesn't have the stamina anymore. That happens to a lot of guys when they hit their mid-30's.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:08 AM   #12
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C'mon, this is complete bullshit, no offense. Martinez wasn't even a champ when Dzinziruk was 'built up'. He was arguably the top dog at 154 for a while (though the division was admittedly weak then), got caught up with promotional difficulties, and got old, plus he was a fairly straightforward fighter to begin with. He beat three guys who were considered to be top 5 in his weight class at the times he beat them, and was fed a bunch of dreck in between because he was with Universum and that's what they did to their fighters. He was never a big 154 pounder to begin with, and probably had no business fighting at 160, but he took a big fight when he could get it.

He was already starting to fade by the time he fought (and soundly beat) Joel Julio, who was a top 5 154 lber at the time. The Konecny fight was a war that took a lot out of him. If you look before the Sergio fight, you'll see I said all of this back then too.

As for why he's not still rated - well, it's been 4 years since he beat someone decent. That's reason enough. He looked like crap in his last fight, like someone who just doesn't have the stamina anymore. That happens to a lot of guys when they hit their mid-30's.
He was out for 2 years due to a legal battle with Universum then signed with Shaw which wasn't any better. He fought a tune up against Daniel Dawson then was out a year again until he got fed to Martinez. Then he was out another year until they had him fight the prospect Gonzalez who weighed in as a LHW ffs.

Pretty similar to Kotelnyk where he signs with an American promoter and their intention is just to use them as a name to build someone else up accompanied by long periods of inactivity.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:10 AM   #13
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He was out for 2 years due to a legal battle with Universum then signed with Shaw which wasn't any better. He fought a tune up against Daniel Dawson then was out a year again until he got fed to Martinez. Then he was out another year until they had him fight the prospect Gonzalez who weighed in as a LHW ffs.

Pretty similar to Kotelnyk where he signs with an American promoter and their intention is just to use them as a name to build someone else up accompanied by long periods of inactivity.
Yeah, I find this trend to be annoying. They were trying to do the same thing with Erdei for a while as well. The least they could do is keep these guys busy.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:21 AM   #14
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when most fighters get ko'd for the first time they are never the same. in fact, many fighters leave the sport entirely(michael spinks/joe lipsey).

khan, lee and ortiz are recent fighters who, imo, will never be the same...specifically amir khan.
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