Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 - Page 2

Sir Koolkid · 11-20-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by realsoulja

Also Ward got an iron chin?

You do know this is Ward dont you:-

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12:28 is not an iron chin

looking in your archives and finding a video of ward getting tagged is not valid proof he doesn't have a iron chin. Since this time he has won the super 6 faced the best guys in his division who are known to be hard hitters and he has dominated them. His chin is clearly rock solid and there is such a thing as development. I guess you must be the same bum you was 5 years ago as you are now.

I could show you a video of ward getting hit by froch after the bell in the middle rounds, ward had his hands by his side and didn't even flinch when froch tagged him in the face. Who at SMW can hurt ward's chin?

Mind Reader · 11-20-2012, 02:17 PM

Stylistic nightmare for Ward... I can not think of any way he could beat a Prime Jones at 168.. He has never fought anyone with the speed and power combination of Roy.

And to the OP that said Ward is "too fast" for Roy, are you joking?

UnleashtheFURY · 11-20-2012, 02:20 PM

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The Mangler · 11-20-2012, 02:52 PM

I don't see that. Roy was a bigger SMW than Ward. He was faster and had punchin power in both hands. Ward might be rougher on the inside than Roy but I can't see him gettin inside on Roy and stayin there long enuf for it to matter. Ward might test him a lil bit but I'd definitely take Roy on points.

MVC · 11-20-2012, 03:20 PM

Ward's roughness on the inside, jabs, right hooks, footwork gives Roy a good boxing lesson.

9-3 or 10-2 beatdown.

Pimp C · 11-20-2012, 03:22 PM

I disagree. RJJ is just the type of guy that would give Ward hell a superior athlete with faster hands and better reflexes. Think of it as RJJ-Hopkins 1 or RJJ-Toney all over again and we all know how that ended.

MVC · 11-20-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimp C

I disagree. RJJ is just the type of guy that would give Ward hell a superior athlete with faster hands and better reflexes. Think of it as RJJ-Hopkins 1 or RJJ-Toney all over again and we all know how that ended.

That'd be true with Froch/Kessler.

But Ward's inside game is too much for Roy, Roy has never dealt with someone as good as Andre SOG Ward.

Never dealt with a beast with a vicious inside game like him (Besides Calzaghe and Calzaghe gave him a fucking schooling of a lifetime)

Roy CAN'T FIGHT vicious rough inside fighters, that's a fact.

Pimp C · 11-20-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MVC

That'd be true with Froch/Kessler.

But Ward's inside game is too much for Roy, Roy has never dealt with someone as good as Andre SOG Ward.

Never dealt with a beast with a vicious inside game like him (Besides Calzaghe and Calzaghe gave him a fucking schooling of a lifetime)

Roy CAN'T FIGHT vicious rough inside fighters, that's a fact.

Nah I disagree. RJJ was the master of dictating distance and while Ward is great at this as well, he would be out manuvered by Jones who had superior foot speed. Not to mention the edge in reach hand speed power and reflexes. He would have Ward shelled up unable to get off and when he tired to get inside he would get picked apart and Roy would be gone. Roy's ATG athletic ability would be too much for Ward here, he's the definition of a stylistic nightmare for Ward if there ever was one.

MVC · 11-20-2012, 03:36 PM

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Nah I disagree. RJJ was the master of dictating distance and while Ward is great at this as well, he would be out manuvered by Jones who had superior foot speed. Not to mention the edge in reach hand speed power and reflexes. He would have Ward shelled up unable to get off and when he tired to get inside he would get picked apart and Roy would be gone. Roy's ATG athletic ability would be too much for Ward here, he's the definition of a stylistic nightmare for Ward if there ever was one.

I'll disagree with this too, yes it is evident that RJJ's hand speed is faster than Ward's, I'm going to disagree with reflexes/foot speed. If you watched Ward fight Abraham/Bika/Froch, you could see insane speed coming in and out of the pocket, dictating distance like a God. Ward is insanely fast for a super middle, with great ring generalship.

It would be an outboxing lesson.

And it's not like Ward is feather fisted, you can't knock Dawson out with feather fists. He BROKE HIS HAND 6 days before his fight with Froch, and that could be a reason that he couldn't finish that fight. But then again probably not, Froch has an IRON chin.

I don't think he's a stylistic matchup for Ward, I think the opposite. Roy has never fought an inside fight with as much skill as Ward (Possibly Calzaghe and he couldn't deal with it at all).

Pimp C · 11-20-2012, 03:52 PM

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I'll disagree with this too, yes it is evident that RJJ's hand speed is faster than Ward's, I'm going to disagree with reflexes/foot speed. If you watched Ward fight Abraham/Bika/Froch, you could see insane speed coming in and out of the pocket, dictating distance like a God. Ward is insanely fast for a super middle, with great ring generalship.

It would be an outboxing lesson.

And it's not like Ward is feather fisted, you can't knock Dawson out with feather fists. He BROKE HIS HAND 6 days before his fight with Froch, and that could be a reason that he couldn't finish that fight. But then again probably not, Froch has an IRON chin.

I don't think he's a stylistic matchup for Ward, I think the opposite. Roy has never fought an inside fight with as much skill as Ward (Possibly Calzaghe and he couldn't deal with it at all).

What you fail to realize is that the fight wouldn't be fought on the inside it would be fought on the outside. Ward would have to go through hell eating hooks trying to get inside. I just don't see him being able to pull it off consistantly against a guy with quicker feet faster hands better reflexes and a master at dictating distance.

pejevan · 11-20-2012, 04:31 PM

Ward is too featherfisted to even bother glass jawed RJJ.

And Calzaghe would wipe the snoot out of Ward's nose.

tliang1000 · 11-20-2012, 04:54 PM

Prime Jones would find that suspect chin of ward.

Mind Reader · 11-20-2012, 04:58 PM

MVC,

What makes you think 168 Roy is gonna stand there and fight Ward on the inside? One of Roy's best attributes were his amazing foot speed, the way he could get in and out of danger, while unleashing a great deal of damage.

James Toney was a defensive master, and was clueless and dumbfounded a lot of the time as to where Jones was even coming from.

I see the fight going similar to Jones-Toney... Except I would probably give Ward a couple more rounds than Toney, who I really had to try hard to pick a single round to give him.

Box702 · 11-20-2012, 05:33 PM

Ward iron chin & too fast for prime rjj?

enough said.Rjj would massacre the kid like he did his idol b-flop

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MVC · 11-20-2012, 05:38 PM

Ward's reflexes/foot speed/Boxing IQ completely trumps RJJ's and you can take that to the bank. And Roy has a GLASS CHIN, I can see him weakening after getting hit with a few left straights by Ward.

He's also a MUCH better technical boxer than he is with great head movement

He can movement around the hooks and completely thrash RJJ on the inside. It will be a easy fight for Son of God. RJJ's inside fighting was atrocious man and Ward would find a way to get to him.

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Mind Reader RIP Captain Phil ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,990 vCash: 600	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 Stylistic nightmare for Ward... I can not think of any way he could beat a Prime Jones at 168.. He has never fought anyone with the speed and power combination of Roy. And to the OP that said Ward is "too fast" for Roy, are you joking?
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11-20-2012, 02:52 PM	#19
The Mangler Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 394 vCash: 500	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 I don't see that. Roy was a bigger SMW than Ward. He was faster and had punchin power in both hands. Ward might be rougher on the inside than Roy but I can't see him gettin inside on Roy and stayin there long enuf for it to matter. Ward might test him a lil bit but I'd definitely take Roy on points.
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MVC Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,372 vCash: 681	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 Ward's roughness on the inside, jabs, right hooks, footwork gives Roy a good boxing lesson. 9-3 or 10-2 beatdown.
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Pimp C I Ain't Got No Worries East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 36,145 vCash: 75	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 I disagree. RJJ is just the type of guy that would give Ward hell a superior athlete with faster hands and better reflexes. Think of it as RJJ-Hopkins 1 or RJJ-Toney all over again and we all know how that ended.
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pejevan inmate No. 1363917 East Side Guru Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,359 vCash: 1343	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 Ward is too featherfisted to even bother glass jawed RJJ. And Calzaghe would wipe the snoot out of Ward's nose.
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tliang1000 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,011 vCash: 79444	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 Prime Jones would find that suspect chin of ward.
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11-20-2012, 04:58 PM	#28
Mind Reader RIP Captain Phil ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 4,990 vCash: 600	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 MVC, What makes you think 168 Roy is gonna stand there and fight Ward on the inside? One of Roy's best attributes were his amazing foot speed, the way he could get in and out of danger, while unleashing a great deal of damage. James Toney was a defensive master, and was clueless and dumbfounded a lot of the time as to where Jones was even coming from. I see the fight going similar to Jones-Toney... Except I would probably give Ward a couple more rounds than Toney, who I really had to try hard to pick a single round to give him.
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11-20-2012, 05:33 PM	#29
Box702 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,239 vCash: 500	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 Ward iron chin & too fast for prime rjj? enough said.Rjj would massacre the kid like he did his idol b-flop .
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11-20-2012, 05:38 PM	#30
MVC Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,372 vCash: 681	Re: Andre S.O.G. Ward would have given prime RJJ FITS and outpoint him 10-2 / 9-3 Ward's reflexes/foot speed/Boxing IQ completely trumps RJJ's and you can take that to the bank. And Roy has a GLASS CHIN, I can see him weakening after getting hit with a few left straights by Ward. He's also a MUCH better technical boxer than he is with great head movement He can movement around the hooks and completely thrash RJJ on the inside. It will be a easy fight for Son of God. RJJ's inside fighting was atrocious man and Ward would find a way to get to him.
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