Developing mental strength for boxing

dempsey1234 · 11-20-2012, 04:26 PM

I dont know if enough time is spent on the mental aspects of boxing. I am not a trainer but I see fighters who are in total command. Like Floyd Mayweather, no matter how hard an oppt comes at him he is in total control. There is a clip of Joe Louis in a fight with Max Baer. Max Baer was a hard punching, rough tough fighter, with a excellent chin, he had never been on the deck in almost 50 pro fights, and he was an ex heavyweight champ. Louis, was a young pro facing a beast. As you watch the fight Baer rushes out and tries to bully Louis and tries to get Louis into a punchup. At first Louis is flustered, but Louis' mental strength came to play,the next time, he convinced Baer that it wasnt the wisest thing to try to get Louis into a slugfest. Louis remained cool and fired back with precise accurate punches. If Louis had lost his cool or been intimidated, who knows what would have happened.
My question is, can this mindset, where no matter the heat coming in a fighter like Louis or Mayweather maintain their composure, can this be taught or is it like power where you are born with it?
the Joe Louis - Max Baer
[URL]********youtu.be/P_BY_d5E4LM[/URL]

NVSemin · 11-21-2012, 04:08 AM

Most of Big boxers like Sugar Ray, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Holyfield, James Toney, Zab Judas are believers. Watch Beyond the glory series to answer your question

dealt_with · 11-21-2012, 08:42 AM

What on earth is 'mental strength'? That's such an ambiguous, meaningless term. There are many different aspects to a persons psychology, and they can all be developed which is why the profession of sports psychology exists.

dealt_with · 11-21-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dempsey1234

I dont know if enough time is spent on the mental aspects of boxing. I am not a trainer but I see fighters who are in total command. Like Floyd Mayweather, no matter how hard an oppt comes at him he is in total control. There is a clip of Joe Louis in a fight with Max Baer. Max Baer was a hard punching, rough tough fighter, with a excellent chin, he had never been on the deck in almost 50 pro fights, and he was an ex heavyweight champ. Louis, was a young pro facing a beast. As you watch the fight Baer rushes out and tries to bully Louis and tries to get Louis into a punchup. At first Louis is flustered, but Louis' mental strength came to play,the next time, he convinced Baer that it wasnt the wisest thing to try to get Louis into a slugfest. Louis remained cool and fired back with precise accurate punches. If Louis had lost his cool or been intimidated, who knows what would have happened.
My question is, can this mindset, where no matter the heat coming in a fighter like Louis or Mayweather maintain their composure, can this be taught or is it like power where you are born with it?
the Joe Louis - Max Baer
[URL]********youtu.be/P_BY_d5E4LM[/URL]

And you're not born with power you ****wit, it's something that's developed. I'm yet to see a baby crawl out and start knocking people out.

dempsey1234 · 11-21-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

And you're not born with power you ****wit, it's something that's developed. I'm yet to see a baby crawl out and start knocking people out.

Cartoon time

dempsey1234 · 11-21-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dealt_with

What on earth is 'mental strength'? That's such an ambiguous, meaningless term. There are many different aspects to a persons psychology, and they can all be developed which is why the profession of sports psychology exists.

dempsey1234 · 11-21-2012, 12:09 PM

[quote=dealt_with;14245303]What on earth is 'mental strength'? That's such an ambiguous, meaningless term. There are many different aspects to a persons psychology, and they can all be developed which is why the profession of sports psychology exists.[/qu

This posts deserves a response, for those trainers/ fighters, who may be intersted in learning something that might improve performance afighter who feels good about himself will perform better, in training and in a fight. Motivation, is a mental aspect of boxing knowing how to instill confience is another. dealt, states the obivious, yes there is a "profession of sports psychology".
FYI, not everybody has the resources to bring one in, so its left to the coach to try and learn as much as he can.

Jdsm · 11-21-2012, 12:17 PM

I don't think he was suggesting that people need to hire a sport psychologist, but was just criticising what he feels is an oversimplification of what is a very broad area.

dempsey1234 · 11-21-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdsm

I don't think he was suggesting that people need to hire a sport psychologist, but was just criticising what he feels is an oversimplification of what is a very broad area.

Neither was I, but you brought up a good point, people are prone to over complicate things rather than oversimplify something.

I would rather learn about about somrthing than defend a statement. If you have something along the lines of tips, advice, anecdotes, that would help a coach or fighter with something they could use to improve do that.

viru§™ · 11-21-2012, 01:06 PM

It can't be taught, it's about being confident in your own abilities as a fighter.

Watch a Maywether interview, ****iest bastard in the ****ing world.

dempsey1234 · 11-21-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by viru§™

It can't be taught, it's about being confident in your own abilities as a fighter.

Watch a Maywether interview, ****iest bastard in the ****ing world.

You're right, I guess that answers my question, thanks

viru§™ · 11-21-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by orriray59

****iness outside the ring and belief in yourself is different to remaining composed within the ring when serious leather is being thrown at you, mate.

No boxer, no matter how fantastic or composed, has been like that under fire in the ring during their first few sparring sessions. It takes years of experience.

There's not a huge difference. If you honestly believe plain and simple you're the best boxer in the world you'll do far better than some guy that doesn't believe in himself. It's all about self belief.

The people that do the best in life go after what they want no matter what. Being punched in the face over and over is not going to stop someone with that kind of mentality, they just won't quit. That's why I find the "I lost 2 fights, shall I quit boxing, I really want to win a title, though" threads funny, they just don't have it in them.

MagnaNasakki · 11-21-2012, 03:22 PM

Discipline helps.

Do the work, every day. Train hard, everyday. Follow instructions, every day.

Way easier to weather difficulty if you did everything right beforehand.

scrap · 11-21-2012, 04:15 PM

Interesting Topic, Ive had the Good fortune to work, and be a very good Friend of a top psycho Therapist. Plus have used Him quite a lot, some Time ago. His take on it, Psychodinamics, plus Genetic Memory, is a major Player. Yet over the years, at times, its left me scratching my Head, with some off the Lads Ive worked with

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scrap · 11-21-2012, 04:21 PM

Interesting Topic, Ive had the Good fortune to work, and be a very good Friend of a top psycho Therapist. Plus have used Him quite a lot, some Time ago. His take on it, Psychodinamics, plus Genetic Memory, is a major Player. Yet over the years, at times, its left me scratching my Head, with some off the Lads Ive worked with

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11-20-2012, 04:26 PM	#1
dempsey1234 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 560 vCash: 500	Developing mental strength for boxing I dont know if enough time is spent on the mental aspects of boxing. I am not a trainer but I see fighters who are in total command. Like Floyd Mayweather, no matter how hard an oppt comes at him he is in total control. There is a clip of Joe Louis in a fight with Max Baer. Max Baer was a hard punching, rough tough fighter, with a excellent chin, he had never been on the deck in almost 50 pro fights, and he was an ex heavyweight champ. Louis, was a young pro facing a beast. As you watch the fight Baer rushes out and tries to bully Louis and tries to get Louis into a punchup. At first Louis is flustered, but Louis' mental strength came to play,the next time, he convinced Baer that it wasnt the wisest thing to try to get Louis into a slugfest. Louis remained cool and fired back with precise accurate punches. If Louis had lost his cool or been intimidated, who knows what would have happened. My question is, can this mindset, where no matter the heat coming in a fighter like Louis or Mayweather maintain their composure, can this be taught or is it like power where you are born with it? the Joe Louis - Max Baer [URL]********youtu.be/P_BY_d5E4LM[/URL]
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11-21-2012, 04:08 AM	#2
NVSemin Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 187 vCash: 500	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing Most of Big boxers like Sugar Ray, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Holyfield, James Toney, Zab Judas are believers. Watch Beyond the glory series to answer your question
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11-21-2012, 08:42 AM	#3
dealt_with Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,446 vCash: 500	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing What on earth is 'mental strength'? That's such an ambiguous, meaningless term. There are many different aspects to a persons psychology, and they can all be developed which is why the profession of sports psychology exists.
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11-21-2012, 12:09 PM	#7
dempsey1234 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 560 vCash: 500	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing [quote=dealt_with;14245303]What on earth is 'mental strength'? That's such an ambiguous, meaningless term. There are many different aspects to a persons psychology, and they can all be developed which is why the profession of sports psychology exists.[/qu This posts deserves a response, for those trainers/ fighters, who may be intersted in learning something that might improve performance afighter who feels good about himself will perform better, in training and in a fight. Motivation, is a mental aspect of boxing knowing how to instill confience is another. dealt, states the obivious, yes there is a "profession of sports psychology". FYI, not everybody has the resources to bring one in, so its left to the coach to try and learn as much as he can.
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11-21-2012, 12:17 PM	#8
Jdsm Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North East, England. Posts: 1,087 vCash: 1432	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing I don't think he was suggesting that people need to hire a sport psychologist, but was just criticising what he feels is an oversimplification of what is a very broad area.
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11-21-2012, 01:06 PM	#10
viru§™ Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,674 vCash: 1000	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing It can't be taught, it's about being confident in your own abilities as a fighter. Watch a Maywether interview, **iest bastard in the **ing world.
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11-21-2012, 03:22 PM	#13
MagnaNasakki Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,829 vCash: 1000	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing Discipline helps. Do the work, every day. Train hard, everyday. Follow instructions, every day. Way easier to weather difficulty if you did everything right beforehand.
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11-21-2012, 04:15 PM	#14
scrap Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,309 vCash: 1000	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing Interesting Topic, Ive had the Good fortune to work, and be a very good Friend of a top psycho Therapist. Plus have used Him quite a lot, some Time ago. His take on it, Psychodinamics, plus Genetic Memory, is a major Player. Yet over the years, at times, its left me scratching my Head, with some off the Lads Ive worked with .
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11-21-2012, 04:21 PM	#15
scrap Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,309 vCash: 1000	Re: Developing mental strength for boxing Interesting Topic, Ive had the Good fortune to work, and be a very good Friend of a top psycho Therapist. Plus have used Him quite a lot, some Time ago. His take on it, Psychodinamics, plus Genetic Memory, is a major Player. Yet over the years, at times, its left me scratching my Head, with some off the Lads Ive worked with .
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