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Old 07-12-2012, 03:04 PM   #1
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Can you think of any fighters who's punching power was overrated?
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:17 PM   #2
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Punching power is such a shitty thing on its own. There's guys like Bob Sapp...

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that knock people down with slaps when he hits, but with such a poor delivery system it doesn't count for much.


Best punchers, best finishers. That's where it's at. Hitting hard solely for the sake of it is futile.

'Cept when people get scared.

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Old 07-12-2012, 03:56 PM   #3
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Can you think of any fighters who's punching power was overrated?
Vitali Klitschko
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:10 PM   #4
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K1 is not 4eal .

overrated in terms of punching power :
Julian Jackson
Nigel Benn
Earnest Shavers
Corrie Sanders (it's not his 1 punch power that does it 4 him)
Jack Dempsey
Bob Foster
Mike Tyson (though effectively his elbows as elbows Ren't underrated)
Joe Louis (but not as much as d names above him here)
RJJ
Charles Liston
Rocco Marchegiano (hard puncher but also a dirty fighter and fought shot opponents in his percievedly (by casuals and morons) biggest wins)
Donovan Ruddock
Ray Mercer (i've seen him considered as a puncher)

edit : how did i forget Tomees Hearns ?

severely underrated :
Oliver McCall
Evander Holyfield
Lloyd Marshall

moderately underrated :
David Tua
Gerlad McClellan (at least currently)
Donald Curry
Emile Griffith


varying from moderately 2 severely underrated :
Mike McCallum
Doug Jones
Bert Cooper

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Old 07-12-2012, 04:15 PM   #5
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I know people are going to jump down my throat here but Nigel Benn. Please don't get me wrong, he no doubt had good power, but the way some people go on it's as though he had the one punch power to KO any MW/SMW in history, but that wasn't the case. The fact is early on against stiffs he showed big KO power with a one punch finish but when his competition level stepped up that stopped. Most of his stoppage/ko wins later on against the stronger opposition were more down to a good beating over a few rounds rather than one punch finishes. Before someone leaps out at me, i'm not denying he was a big puncher because he was, just not as big as some like to make out.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:21 PM   #6
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I know people are going to jump down my throat here but Nigel Benn. Please don't get me wrong, he no doubt had good power, but the way some people go on it's as though he had the one punch power to KO any MW/SMW in history, but that wasn't the case. The fact is early on against stiffs he showed big KO power with a one punch finish but when his competition level stepped up that stopped. Most of his stoppage/ko wins later on against the stronger opposition were more down to a good beating over a few rounds rather than one punch finishes. Before someone leaps out at me, i'm not denying he was a big puncher because he was, just not as big as some like to make out.
correct , i forgot 2 list him in my post , will now edit it again and add him in d overrated .
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:31 PM   #7
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Ones things for sure - the only over rating is bein done by the fans who have never taken the punches before - you can be damn sure if a fighter says so and so hit like a mutha then he damn well did!!
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:45 PM   #8
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Felix Trinidad
Oscar De La Hoya above 130
Wilfredo Gomez
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Zarate
Manny Pac above 130

Benn a good call too, though i think it's generally been recognised he lost a fair bit of power at 168.

Often nderrated power among well discussed fighters...

Eder Jofre
Alfonso Zamora
John Conteh
Victor Galindez
Roberto Duran
Carlos Monzon
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #9
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Carlos Monzon,,,,,,,,,,,Not 'one-punch power'.

Jake LaMotta,,,,,,,,,,,,Hit like a girl.
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:57 PM   #10
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Carlos Monzon
Ike Williams
Earnie Shavers

Most recently:
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Nonito Donaire
Marcos Maidana
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:21 PM   #11
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Felix Trinidad
Oscar De La Hoya above 130
Wilfredo Gomez
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Zarate
Manny Pac above 130

Benn a good call too, though i think it's generally been recognised he lost a fair bit of power at 168.

Often nderrated power among well discussed fighters...

Eder Jofre
Alfonso Zamora
John Conteh
Victor Galindez
Roberto Duran
Carlos Monzon
True he did loose some power at 168, but his knockouts dried up even at 160 with the better opposition Sanderline Williams, Michael Watson, Chris Eubank etc. Ok, he had to good TKO wins over Barkley and DeWitt, but to be fair he got away with a fair bit against Barkley and Barkley was more than fit to continue he was just stopped on the 3 kd rule, and DeWitt was good chinned but he had poor defense and against a puncher like Benn that's always bad Sumbu Kalambay and Jose Quinones, neither of which punched like Benn, they TKO'd him also so he wasn't unstopable.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:30 PM   #12
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severely underrated :
Oliver McCall
Evander Holyfield
Lloyd Marshall

I don't know how Evander Holyfield is underrated as a puncher Frank because he simply wasn't a very big puncher at Heavyweight and doesn't merit a ranking as one.

He scored some decent stoppages but Douglas aside (and that was a virtual quit job) I don't recall him scoring any one punch KO's against decent opposition. Add to that he went 5 years without a single stoppage win at one point and during that period couldn't even put away a blown up Lt Heavy in Czyz and proven china chins in Stewart and Moorer. The Tyson stoppage shows that he could wear someone down but this victory says more about Tysons deficiencies than Evanders big punch.

What Holyfield was good at was punching with very fast, accurate combinations which not many Heavyweights can do half as well as him. Watch his display against Foreman as he reeled off beautiful text book combination after combination to really appreciate how effective this was. Still as impressive as this was he couldn't dent George's chin either.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:37 PM   #13
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K1 is not 4eal .

overrated in terms of punching power :
Julian Jackson
Nigel Benn
Earnest Shavers
Corrie Sanders (it's not his 1 punch power that does it 4 him)
Jack Dempsey
Bob Foster
Mike Tyson (though effectively his elbows as elbows Ren't underrated)
Joe Louis (but not as much as d names above him here)
RJJ
Charles Liston
Rocco Marchegiano (hard puncher but also a dirty fighter and fought shot opponents in his percievedly (by casuals and morons) biggest wins)
Donovan Ruddock
Ray Mercer (i've seen him considered as a puncher)

severely underrated :
Oliver McCall
Evander Holyfield
Lloyd Marshall

moderately underrated :
David Tua
Gerlad McClellan (at least currently)
Donald Curry
Emile Griffith


varying from moderately 2 severely underrated :
Mike McCallum
Doug Jones
Bert Cooper
Julian Jackson's power overrated?
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:35 PM   #14
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ones things for sure - the only over rating is bein done by the fans who have never taken the punches before - you can be damn sure if a fighter says so and so hit like a mutha then he damn well did!!
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Old 07-12-2012, 08:28 PM   #15
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K1 is not 4eal .

overrated in terms of punching power :
Julian Jackson

Nigel Benn
Earnest Shavers
Corrie Sanders (it's not his 1 punch power that does it 4 him)
Jack Dempsey
Bob Foster
Mike Tyson (though effectively his elbows as elbows Ren't underrated)
Joe Louis (but not as much as d names above him here)
RJJ
Charles Liston
Rocco Marchegiano (hard puncher but also a dirty fighter and fought shot opponents in his percievedly (by casuals and morons) biggest wins)
Donovan Ruddock
Ray Mercer (i've seen him considered as a puncher)

severely underrated :
Oliver McCall
Evander Holyfield
Lloyd Marshall

moderately underrated :
David Tua
Gerlad McClellan (at least currently)
Donald Curry
Emile Griffith


varying from moderately 2 severely underrated :
Mike McCallum
Doug Jones
Bert Cooper
Everything in red is nonsense.

Julian Jackson and Bob Foster are two of the most concussive single-shot hitters in history. Evander Holyfield ain't, at any weight, ever. And G-Man was a mighty puncher, and everyone knew it and knows it, unless they're idiots.
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