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Old 11-21-2012, 05:17 AM   #1
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Default Ranking the top 6 P4P's 5 best wins amongst each other.

This is ranking the 5 best wins amongst each of the 6 best fighters in the sport at the moment. That is: Mayweather, Pacquiao, Marquez, Ward, Donaire, and Sergio. Everyone's top 5 wins from each of them will be different. That's 30 fights. It takes a while and I didn't really do a double look over and am skeptical with my own slotting...

Here it is:

Pacquiao TKO11 Marco Antonio Barrera I
Mayweather TKO10 Diego Corrales
Ward UD12 Carl Froch
Pacquiao TKO12 Miguel Cotto
Mayweather UD12 Miguel Cotto
Mayweather UD12 Jose Luis Castillo II
Ward TD11 Mikkel Kessler
Sergio KO2 Paul Williams II
Mayweather RTD8 Genaro Hernandez
Donaire TKO5 Vic Darchinyan
Donaire TKO2 Fernando Montiel
Mayweather TKO10 Ricky Hatton
Pacquiao KO2 Ricky Hatton
Marquez TKO11 Joel Casamayor
Pacquiao KO6 Lehlo Ledwaba
Sergio UD12 Kelly Pavlik
Donaire TKO9 Toshiaki Nishioka
Ward TKO10 Chad Dawson
Pacquiao TKO10 Erik Morales II
Marquez TKO9 Juan Diaz
Marquez UD12 Marco Antonio Barrera
Sergio UD12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Marquez TD7 Derrick Gainer
Sergio RTD11 Matthew Macklin
Marquez UD12 Orlando Salido
Donaire UD12 Omar Narvaez
Ward UD12 Sakio Bika
Donaire TKO6 Moruti Mthalane
Sergio TKO10 Sergei Dzinziruk
Ward UD12 Arthur Abraham

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Old 11-21-2012, 05:26 AM   #2
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Default Re: Ranking the top 6 P4P's 5 best wins amongst each other.

Are they in order of best to relative worst?
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:28 AM   #3
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Are they in order of best to relative worst?

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Old 11-21-2012, 05:52 AM   #4
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Disagree. No way is a win over Montiel or Darchinyan above PBF's win over Hatton regardless of how. Ward UD Froch is way too high. JMM beats a shot to pieces Casamayor who hasnt done anything in nearly half a decade and thats suppose to be better than Morales who beat Pac just 10 months before and gave him hell in the 2nd fight?

And you forgot Pac win over JMM. You would have to be extremely biased to have scored all 3 for JMM. Pac-ODLH would be in his top 5 wins, for the mere fact that he jumped 3 divisions within 1 year to fight the guy and how dominating the performance was. You can call up all the "drained" excuse all you like, but Corrales was drained vs FLoyd, Toney vs RJJ etc etc. Fact is, Pac was a big underdog and he shocked the world.

Kessler beat Froch, Wards win over Kessler should be higher. Dont know why beating a drunk Pavlik is so high either, Hopkins ruined him worse. Ward's win over Abraham not as good as the 6 above it?

I would also rate Mayweathers win over ODLH at 154 when he was undersized against an elite opponent higher than his win over Hernandez.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:07 AM   #5
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Pacquiao TKO11 Marco Antonio Barrera I
Mayweather TKO10 Diego Corrales
Ward UD12 Carl Froch
Pacquiao TKO12 Miguel Cotto
Mayweather UD12 Miguel Cotto
Mayweather UD12 Jose Luis Castillo II
Ward TD11 Mikkel Kessler
Sergio KO2 Paul Williams II
Mayweather RTD8 Genaro Hernandez
Donaire TKO5 Vic Darchinyan
Donaire TKO2 Fernando Montiel
Mayweather TKO10 Ricky Hatton
Pacquiao KO2 Ricky Hatton
Marquez TKO11 Joel Casamayor
Pacquiao KO6 Lehlo Ledwaba
Sergio UD12 Kelly Pavlik
Donaire TKO9 Toshiaki Nishioka
Ward TKO10 Chad Dawson
Pacquiao TKO10 Erik Morales II
Marquez TKO9 Juan Diaz
Marquez UD12 Marco Antonio Barrera
Sergio UD12 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Marquez TD7 Derrick Gainer
Sergio RTD11 Matthew Macklin
Marquez UD12 Orlando Salido
Donaire UD12 Omar Narvaez
Ward UD12 Sakio Bika
Donaire TKO6 Moruti Mthalane
Sergio TKO10 Sergei Dzinziruk
Ward UD12 Arthur Abraham

Agree/Disagree? Notable observations?
cotto is a bit overrated to be that high, I think hatton-mayweather at that point was a better match up and was a better win for floyd. Donaire's best victory imo was against montiel but the darchinyan win is a close 2nd.

Paul williams is a bit overrated, that sergio KO2 williams 2 is high, and I honestly believe pac's victory over morales 2 had a higher significance. Marquez-salido should be higher, considering the quality opponent salido is.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:01 AM   #6
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Default Re: Ranking the top 6 P4P's 5 best wins amongst each other.

Donaire-Narvaez should be last or shouldn't appear at all IMO but we've argued about that before. Agree with previous posters that Ward-Froch is too high. Where would Pac-Marquez III rank had the proper decision been rendered?
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:21 AM   #7
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I would rate Pacquiao's win over Cotto over Froch vs Ward.

I think Marquez vs Diaz 1 could be a bit higher seeing that it was Marquez first fight at the weight and Diaz was highly rated at the time.

I would also rate Donaire vs Darchinyan higher as Darchinyan was highly rated at the time and even afterward unified titles at 115 lbs, it is only really since moving up to 118 lbs that Darchinyan was really beaten again.
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