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Old 11-21-2012, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad: Robbery and Myth

This fight should have been something so much greater for Oscar's career. What an amazing boxing display he put on that night. He deserved this huge win, and he deserved to keep his undefeated record intact. After he was robbed in this fight, Oscar never seemed the same to me. I think this fght was the turning point from Oscar being a full time boxer, to a part time boxer. That robbery was extremely hard for him to get over, and I can't blame him. His entire great career, amateur and pro had built up to this moment. He came into the fight in amazing form. Two undefeated fighters fighting right in the middle of their prime.

I find it hard to see any 147 lbs in history beating Oscar on this night. His footwork, his headmovement, his combinations, ect.. were all amazing. His jab was surgical. To go into the ring with another great prime boxer like Tito and control the ring the way that he did is another story on it's own. Great ring generalship.

I would also like to put to bed the horrible myth that Oscar ran the last 4 rounds. Oscar did start to move more and engage less in the last 2 rounds, but he still threw and he still outboxed Tito. Even then, Tito was unsuccessful with his own offense. Tito did absolutely NOTHING to win this fight. Oscar boxed beautifully throughout the entire fight.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sakDjoOB80c[/ame]
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:35 PM   #2
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Tito was a great fighter.

But if he fought a moving target it's practically over for him. De La Hoya deserved the win.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:37 PM   #3
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What was Lederman's score for that fight?
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:49 PM   #4
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What was Lederman's score for that fight?

114-114 he had been caught sucking Glen Hamada's dick pre fight in the training room who also scored he fight 114-114
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:49 PM   #5
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Default Re: Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad: Robbery and Myth

Its useless to discuss this fight because everyone saw it different.

But I will ask this, if Oscar won the fight so easily how come he did not go for the rematch right away?
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:51 PM   #6
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Oscar shoulda just ko'd his ass.

Always be wary of those who blame robberies on fighters "running". Means "buh my guy couldnt hit your guy"
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:54 PM   #7
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8-4 oscar
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:08 PM   #8
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Default Re: Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Trinidad: Robbery and Myth

Unlike some, I still considered Oscar rightfully undefeated entering the ring that night. I thought he just nicked it against Quartey in the last round and didn't think Pea got him either (making people look stupid isn't the same as punching them more) and when that scorecard came in I was sickened. Oscar clearly won that fight, in my mind. Quartey did a far better job with Oscar and I don't think it would've been a robbery if he'd gotten it, my scoring aside, that was close. I didn't think Trinidad came close to besting Oscar though. ODLH may have gotten a gift later with Sturm, but what utterly shite compensation to get Sturm and a paper title in a sixth weight class for losing a Mosley and an undefeated Trinidad in a unification bout on your record.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:50 PM   #9
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Its useless to discuss this fight because everyone saw it different.

But I will ask this, if Oscar won the fight so easily how come he did not go for the rematch right away?
I don't think that there is any other way to see this fight. All you ever hear people talking about is Oscar did this, or Oscar did that. What you NEVER hear is what Tito did. That's because Tito did absolutely nothing to win that fight. For some reason, that is lost on some people. However, those people are usually Oscar haters or overboard Tito fans. Oscar won that fight, easy, hands down.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:00 PM   #10
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Tito was great but was outboxed clearly by Oscar.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:05 PM   #11
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Well I thought Oscar won but he still has only himself to blame for potentially not winning the last 4 rounds clearly.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:21 PM   #12
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Amazin how non action packed this fight was. It wasnt a great fight by any means but how in the hell can Trinidad win the fight? What were the scorecards? Rds 1-8 alone was DLHs. Nothing dominant but its clear he won them.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:24 PM   #13
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Amazin how non action packed this fight was. It wasnt a great fight by any means but how in the hell can Trinidad win the fight? What were the scorecards? Rds 1-8 alone was DLHs. Nothing dominant but its clear he won them.
Round 1 was a feel out round that judges can swing either way and I believe round 4 was a Tito round if I remember correctly.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:25 PM   #14
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Did the judges ever attempt to defend their cards?
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:29 PM   #15
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Round 1 was a feel out round that judges can swing either way and I believe round 4 was a Tito round if I remember correctly.
Watching it a second time, there were very little going on in those early rounds. A couple of jabs here and there and the judges might have had a different perspective. It seemed a bit more tilted to DLH when I first watched it live.

The problem most people have is that a small margin of winning a round is still winning that round.
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