the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE!

swingin · 09-26-2012, 06:08 PM

reading 'the e myth', or even the pulp classic, 'rich dad poor dad', one realises that to be successful in business, a model should be created. in short, what this model is supposed to achieve is 'predictable results and outcomes'. profitable AND predictable results.

totalpac, recently wanked off over chauncy wellivers 'great business model'. what he was really championing was how welliver created predictable results, ie; fight bums and pad a record to achive a higher ranking in an alphabet boxing body. a path demori is obviously taking..

the problem with the 'boxing buisness model' (BBM) that welliver used and demori admires is that the 'product they are selling' is a fake. the first time they step out of their BBM and fight an opponent with credentials, they move from their BBM that demands a 'predictable result or outcome'.

we saw what happened to welliver when he took just a small 'risk' with tank williams. welliver got beaten, and his BBM falls over, his credibility becomes 'bankrupt', and his days as a fighter are over. the same will happen with demori, IF he ever goes outside his BBM.

real fighters dont need a BBM. they may get financial advice, and employ a promotions manager if they are good enough (chris john should have one, there would be indonesian companies lining up for him to be the face of their products).

the BBM is really just bums fleecing an unknowing public of cash, further destroying the reputation of boxing. real fighters climb the ladder. they fight the best they can handle. take their losses and learn.

BBM= BUM!

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fighta29 · 09-26-2012, 06:56 PM

All true. This can be achieved at different levels of boxing also, both domestic and international. A fighter can be "seen" to be stepping up, but is still well within his comfort zone. The business of boxing

Totalpac · 09-26-2012, 06:57 PM

I only hope we get to see how sound MDM's plans have been, then both you, I and everyone else will know the truth.

The Spider · 09-26-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Totalpac

I only hope we get to see how sound MDM's plans have been, then both you, I and everyone else will know the truth.

It's one of life's great mysteries how de Mori has managed to attained WBC #20 ranking. I guess you could refer to having Don King get you a rating way beyond your achievements as a "plan".

leftrip · 09-26-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fighta29

All true. This can be achieved at different levels of boxing also, both domestic and international. A fighter can be "seen" to be stepping up, but is still well within his comfort zone. The business of boxing

Who the fuck have these two frauds been stepping up against to earn fraudulent ranking in a whore of an organisation like wBC

fighta29 · 09-26-2012, 10:31 PM

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Who the fuck have these two frauds been stepping up against to earn fraudulent ranking in a whore of an organisation like wBC

Exactly right. To the boxing savvy, its obvious. To the pulic sheep, its not.

leftrip · 09-26-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fighta29

Exactly right. To the boxing savvy, its obvious. To the pulic sheep, its not.

These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip

fighta29 · 09-26-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by leftrip

These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip

this

fighta29 · 09-26-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by leftrip

These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip

"Champion" Fighters emerge 2 ways.

1. Out of struggle

2. WIth a fuckload of money spent on them

leftrip · 09-27-2012, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fighta29

"Champion" Fighters emerge 2 ways.

1. Out of struggle

2. WIth a fuckload of money spent on them

True you know which option these fuckwits have taken to get where they are

Totalpac · 09-27-2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by leftrip

These bums think they are 'talente boxers' and believe their self promotion and are shit scared of stepping up and taking risks fighting real contenders. They just want to read their own publicity and show off to their small fan base being family and friends that know jack shit about boxing. Great to come from wealthy backgrounds that helps pay for this fantasy trip

Also great to be strong enough to not get sucked in to the 'written life script' of school, get a big mortgage, hate work, hate marriage, retire at 65 then die saying all the while 'life sucks' and taking your own sadness/bitterness out on others.

Chasing your dreams doesn't take money, it takes courage and strength. When you have both of those you encourage others no matter whether they are Mike Tyson or Kim Kardasian.

All power to anyone chasing their dreams, I have love for them all.

peterm · 09-27-2012, 01:13 AM

Maybe there all waiting for the klichcos to retire and with a bodgy high ranking can fight for a world title?

leftrip · 09-27-2012, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Totalpac

Also great to be strong enough to not get sucked in to the 'written life script' of school, get a big mortgage, hate work, hate marriage, retire at 65 then die saying all the while 'life sucks' and taking your own sadness/bitterness out on others.

Chasing your dreams doesn't take money, it takes courage and strength. When you have both of those you encourage others no matter whether they are Mike Tyson or Kim Kardasian.

All power to anyone chasing their dreams, I have love for them all.

No i just want to see good well matched meaningful fights not hand picked opponents then trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the public thank fuck these guys are not on mainstream meia only the only media stuff. I have nothing against people trying to aspire to their goals and dreams but these two are chumps trying to make fools of the boxing public with their hand picked opponents and pseudo media write ups trying to bluff their way to a title shot

MrFishChampion · 09-27-2012, 07:35 AM

I think Demori and Welliver are smart

its a good buisiness plan if Demori was more active and Welliver would win em all

for famous examples I would say

Hasim Rahman
George Foreman
Shannon "the Cannon" Briggs

they created 'Ballyhoo' fighting a lot of bums sometimes a string of them in a row. But then they would take on the toughest guys in the world fearlessly

inexperienced Derrek Chisora fought the tough guys and lost

Bwgcolman · 09-27-2012, 08:57 AM

Saw Demori about 7 years ago in a gym sparring a novice amateur heavyweight and he was getting outclassed, so it's a testament to the busisness brains that are behind him that he has got this far with such little boxing fundamentals and ability.

It's also a sad indication of how boxing has fallen so far in that someone like him can be taken seriously and rated so highly.

I suppose all the hungry young big fellas with sporting ability are playing some code of football and not interested in boxing, but that makes sense, it's not as demanding, pays better, gets more recognition and is better supported throughout junior development.

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swingin Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,731 vCash: 500	the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE! reading 'the e myth', or even the pulp classic, 'rich dad poor dad', one realises that to be successful in business, a model should be created. in short, what this model is supposed to achieve is 'predictable results and outcomes'. profitable AND predictable results. totalpac, recently wanked off over chauncy wellivers 'great business model'. what he was really championing was how welliver created predictable results, ie; fight bums and pad a record to achive a higher ranking in an alphabet boxing body. a path demori is obviously taking.. the problem with the 'boxing buisness model' (BBM) that welliver used and demori admires is that the 'product they are selling' is a fake. the first time they step out of their BBM and fight an opponent with credentials, they move from their BBM that demands a 'predictable result or outcome'. we saw what happened to welliver when he took just a small 'risk' with tank williams. welliver got beaten, and his BBM falls over, his credibility becomes 'bankrupt', and his days as a fighter are over. the same will happen with demori, IF he ever goes outside his BBM. real fighters dont need a BBM. they may get financial advice, and employ a promotions manager if they are good enough (chris john should have one, there would be indonesian companies lining up for him to be the face of their products). the BBM is really just bums fleecing an unknowing public of cash, further destroying the reputation of boxing. real fighters climb the ladder. they fight the best they can handle. take their losses and learn. BBM= BUM! . Last edited by swingin; 09-26-2012 at 06:50 PM.
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fighta29 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 835 vCash: 500	Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE! All true. This can be achieved at different levels of boxing also, both domestic and international. A fighter can be "seen" to be stepping up, but is still well within his comfort zone. The business of boxing
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Totalpac Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 698 vCash: 500	Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE! I only hope we get to see how sound MDM's plans have been, then both you, I and everyone else will know the truth.
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peterm Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 338 vCash: 500	Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE! Maybe there all waiting for the klichcos to retire and with a bodgy high ranking can fight for a world title?
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MrFishChampion Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 458 vCash: 250	Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE! I think Demori and Welliver are smart its a good buisiness plan if Demori was more active and Welliver would win em all for famous examples I would say Hasim Rahman George Foreman Shannon "the Cannon" Briggs they created 'Ballyhoo' fighting a lot of bums sometimes a string of them in a row. But then they would take on the toughest guys in the world fearlessly inexperienced Derrek Chisora fought the tough guys and lost
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Bwgcolman Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 290 vCash: 500	Re: the professional 'boxers buisness model', FARCE! Saw Demori about 7 years ago in a gym sparring a novice amateur heavyweight and he was getting outclassed, so it's a testament to the busisness brains that are behind him that he has got this far with such little boxing fundamentals and ability. It's also a sad indication of how boxing has fallen so far in that someone like him can be taken seriously and rated so highly. I suppose all the hungry young big fellas with sporting ability are playing some code of football and not interested in boxing, but that makes sense, it's not as demanding, pays better, gets more recognition and is better supported throughout junior development.
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