Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring

SP_Mauler · 11-23-2012, 03:21 AM

Was reading a book earlier and it said "Rumour had it Joe Gans dropped Dempsey in sparring"

Any truth to it?

McGrain · 11-23-2012, 05:40 AM

What was the book?

Shake · 11-23-2012, 07:28 AM

Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

Could be that Dempsey was such a draw and a superstar that things like this popped up.

janitor · 11-23-2012, 08:03 AM

Of course, things stranger than fiction happen in sparring, but sparring Chineese whispers are also prolific.

McGrain · 11-23-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shake

Did Dempsey ever win a spar?

He was a beast in sparring though.

PowerPuncher · 11-23-2012, 08:44 AM

Sparring is upside down world, a lightweight and middleweight knock down and beat up the world heavyweight champ, Dempsey fights big black men.....upside down world it is

Anything can happen in boxing/sparring but yea I doubt it

LittleRed · 11-23-2012, 09:10 AM

No. Dempsey was 15 fucking years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.

McGrain · 11-23-2012, 09:12 AM

Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.

LittleRed · 11-23-2012, 09:27 AM

In that case... Gans was black and Dempsey ducked him. Truth!

mcvey · 11-23-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.

I hope this doesn't get me banned , but I believe the Joe Gans referred to is the gentleman on the right of this photo. ie Panama Joe Gans, but you knew that didn't you Hamish?

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I dont think there are many stories of Dempsey being floored in sparring ,it seems most went out of their way to avoid making him unduly upset. According to Larry Gains, he punished the respectful ones , but he crucified any that got adventurous.

mcvey · 11-23-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

No. Dempsey was 15 fucking years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]Panama Joe Gans, with Wills ,and Louis.1938

Godfrey was the main sparring partner
Tate was used for strength
Jamaica Kid for brawling
Gans for speed .
[I pinched this info from CBZ.]
BTW. Gans beat Dempsey in 1923 and Wills in 1927 .

LittleRed · 11-23-2012, 11:11 AM

I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.

Johnstown · 11-23-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.

somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjo0ajod1M[/ame]

LittleRed · 11-23-2012, 11:23 AM

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somehow what you just wrote reminded me of this....[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Hey! Its Enrico Palazzo!

FastHands(beeb) · 11-23-2012, 11:27 AM

Absolutely brilliant clip!

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SP_Mauler Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,045 vCash: 75	Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring Was reading a book earlier and it said "Rumour had it Joe Gans dropped Dempsey in sparring" Any truth to it?
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11-23-2012, 05:40 AM	#2
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,251 vCash: 1000	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring What was the book?
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11-23-2012, 07:28 AM	#3
Shake Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,335 vCash: 75	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring Did Dempsey ever win a spar? Could be that Dempsey was such a draw and a superstar that things like this popped up.
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,045 vCash: 1000	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring Of course, things stranger than fiction happen in sparring, but sparring Chineese whispers are also prolific.
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PowerPuncher ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 30,729 vCash: 1000	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring Sparring is upside down world, a lightweight and middleweight knock down and beat up the world heavyweight champ, Dempsey fights big black men.....upside down world it is Anything can happen in boxing/sparring but yea I doubt it
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LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,612 vCash: 475	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring No. Dempsey was 15 fucking years old when Gans died of TB. Simply did not happen.
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,251 vCash: 1000	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring Oh come on! Dempsey was riding the rails as a 6 year old, fighting in tough mining towns against tough miners, some of them out-weighing mordern heavyweight by up to 100lbs, and he generally remained unbeaten...he would have stepped in to give Gans a workout in a flash.
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LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,612 vCash: 475	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring In that case... Gans was black and Dempsey ducked him. Truth!
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LittleRed Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yoknapatawpha Posts: 2,612 vCash: 475	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring I assumed we were talking about the Old Master, Joe Gans, not Panama Joe Gans, or Allentown Joe Gans, or Italian Joe Gans. So, yes, a boxer named Joe Gans probably did drop Dempsey.
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FastHands(beeb) Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 637 vCash: 500	Re: Did Joe Gans drop Dempsey in sparring Absolutely brilliant clip!
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