Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston)

Longhhorn71 · 05-23-2009, 05:49 PM

To me Patterson was a better overall fighter once he got rid of Cus D'Amato and began to "take chances".

Assume Patterson does not have a "bad back" and comes to fight.

Can Floyd beat Larry?

MRBILL · 05-23-2009, 06:24 PM

I already did a piece on Patterson's supposed "Bad Back" against Ali in '65... I liked Floyd Patterson but, he was clearly out-gunned against Ali... And I think his bad back was a sorta' "Plan-B" to escape from being counted out on his face or back at the time..... Patterson was a seasoned pro who was tricky....

As for Patterson's chances against a Larry Holmes, well, not very good...... Holmes basically takes off where Ali left off.... Holmes hits the smaller Patterson at will for the most part and hammers him into a late round defeat..... Patterson CAN'T beat Larry Holmes in a time machine........

MR.BILL

teeto · 05-23-2009, 06:27 PM

Holmes

Bokaj · 05-23-2009, 06:40 PM

It was clear that Patterson couldn't get past Ali's jab. I think he would have the same problem against Holmes, and at a closer distance Holmes has that uppercut... Holmes by late stoppage.

robert ungurean · 05-23-2009, 07:45 PM

I dont see any version of Patterson beating Holmes.
Holmes jab just controled everything and as stated above I dont see Floyd getting past it.

djanders · 05-23-2009, 08:18 PM

I, basically, agree with what the others have said. Larry Holmes would beat Floyd Patterson, by decision or late stoppage...in my opinion.

ThinBlack · 11-23-2012, 10:20 PM

Holmes would stop Patterson in the 14th.Larry would floor Floyd with a jab in the first, and takes abuse to him, Floyd winning, at most, two rounds.

MAG1965 · 11-23-2012, 10:22 PM

Holmes would easily beat Patterson and I think it is mid rounds stoppage.

Unforgiven · 11-24-2012, 10:04 AM

Holmes would give Patterson a beating.

Nightcrawler · 11-24-2012, 10:24 AM

holmes was susceptible to sneaky right hands in close, not leaping left hooks from a distance. ditto all the previous posts, holmes domination

jowcol · 11-27-2012, 06:07 PM

Again, resident Floyd nut-hugger here. Too much size, weight, reach, and HOF jab for Floyd to have a chance. But, this could go the distance, given Floyd's stamina. Some late round rights might have Floyd ready to go but?....
Again, different decades, different body builds. Floyd could never beat Holmes but Patterson could give Larry a bit of a fit for awhile tho with no chance of winning.

05-23-2009, 05:49 PM	#1
Longhhorn71 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,595 vCash: 1000	Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) To me Patterson was a better overall fighter once he got rid of Cus D'Amato and began to "take chances". Assume Patterson does not have a "bad back" and comes to fight. Can Floyd beat Larry?
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05-23-2009, 06:24 PM	#2
MRBILL Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10,558 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) I already did a piece on Patterson's supposed "Bad Back" against Ali in '65... I liked Floyd Patterson but, he was clearly out-gunned against Ali... And I think his bad back was a sorta' "Plan-B" to escape from being counted out on his face or back at the time..... Patterson was a seasoned pro who was tricky.... As for Patterson's chances against a Larry Holmes, well, not very good...... Holmes basically takes off where Ali left off.... Holmes hits the smaller Patterson at will for the most part and hammers him into a late round defeat..... Patterson CAN'T beat Larry Holmes in a time machine........ MR.BILL
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05-23-2009, 06:27 PM	#3
teeto Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Team Ireland Manor, Easing Pabuiao into the life of managing the GOAT Posts: 14,051 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) Holmes
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05-23-2009, 06:40 PM	#4
Bokaj Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 7,173 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) It was clear that Patterson couldn't get past Ali's jab. I think he would have the same problem against Holmes, and at a closer distance Holmes has that uppercut... Holmes by late stoppage.
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05-23-2009, 07:45 PM	#5
robert ungurean Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: liftin 3 kettlebells in pa.usa Posts: 2,136 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) I dont see any version of Patterson beating Holmes. Holmes jab just controled everything and as stated above I dont see Floyd getting past it.
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05-23-2009, 08:18 PM	#6
djanders Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United States Posts: 1,156 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) I, basically, agree with what the others have said. Larry Holmes would beat Floyd Patterson, by decision or late stoppage...in my opinion.
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ThinBlack Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,413 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) Holmes would stop Patterson in the 14th.Larry would floor Floyd with a jab in the first, and takes abuse to him, Floyd winning, at most, two rounds.
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MAG1965 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas,Texas. Posts: 17,400 vCash: 1010	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) Holmes would easily beat Patterson and I think it is mid rounds stoppage.
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11-24-2012, 10:04 AM	#9
Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,720 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) Holmes would give Patterson a beating.
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11-24-2012, 10:24 AM	#10
Nightcrawler Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Canada!!!! Posts: 2,215 vCash: 500	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) holmes was susceptible to sneaky right hands in close, not leaping left hooks from a distance. ditto all the previous posts, holmes domination
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11-27-2012, 06:07 PM	#11
jowcol Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 769 vCash: 1000	Re: Larry Holmes vs Patterson (post-Liston) Again, resident Floyd nut-hugger here. Too much size, weight, reach, and HOF jab for Floyd to have a chance. But, this could go the distance, given Floyd's stamina. Some late round rights might have Floyd ready to go but?.... Again, different decades, different body builds. Floyd could never beat Holmes but Patterson could give Larry a bit of a fit for awhile tho with no chance of winning.
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