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Old 01-05-2013, 12:19 PM   #1
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Default Who is the #2 cruiserweight of all time?

Holyfield is the clear, consensus #1 but who is the 2nd best cruiser & why? (Post 1980 fighters only please)

Is it DeLeon, Nelson, Qawi, Haye, JC Gomez, Adamek, Jirov, Mormeck, Bell, Wamba etc...
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:23 PM   #2
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Evander Holyfield
David Haye
Carlos De Leon
Steve Cunningham
O'Neil Bell
Jean Marc Mormeck
Tomasz Adamek
Marco Huck
Orlin Norris
Dwight Qawi
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #4
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Blimey nelson got a mention that surprised me
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #5
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Holyfield behind Haye.

Maybe Qawi?
He certainly was the best with the tools he had.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:28 PM   #6
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Default Re: Who is the #2 cruiserweight of all time?

it's certainly a very shallow division. I think Haye, Bell, Mormeck have to be in the mention for unifying all the belts.

I reckon Sugar has to be there for his long run at the top.

I reckon Cunningham has to be there because at one point he'd owned victories over the top 5 ranked guys and every belt holder or something daft.

But after that anyone can be argued really.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:29 PM   #7
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Evander Holyfield
David Haye
Carlos De Leon
Steve Cunningham
O'Neil Bell
Jean Marc Mormeck
Tomasz Adamek
Marco Huck
Orlin Norris
Dwight Qawi
No love for Gomez or Nelson?

How do you rate them Luf; is it H2H, resume or a composite of both?
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:32 PM   #8
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No love for Gomez or Nelson?

How do you rate them Luf; is it H2H, resume or a composite of both?
Gomez was around a while but I don't think he was ever number 1. Nelson might have an argument if I bothered to watch his bigger fights but his style is too displeasing.

I rank on a system where I tier them on an achievement/resume composite then rank in that tier on h2h.

So I've split them like this in tiers:

Evander Holyfield

David Haye
Carlos De Leon
Steve Cunningham
O'Neil Bell
Jean Marc Mormeck

Tomasz Adamek

Marco Huck
Orlin Norris

Dwight Qawi

and each tier is ranked in h2h order.
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:43 PM   #9
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Gomez was around a while but I don't think he was ever number 1. Nelson might have an argument if I bothered to watch his bigger fights but his style is too displeasing.

I rank on a system where I tier them on an achievement/resume composite then rank in that tier on h2h.

So I've split them like this in tiers:

Evander Holyfield

David Haye
Carlos De Leon
Steve Cunningham
O'Neil Bell
Jean Marc Mormeck

Tomasz Adamek

Marco Huck
Orlin Norris

Dwight Qawi

and each tier is ranked in h2h order.
Cool

I think Gomez is one of the better cruisers but his competition was fairly poor. Nelson deserves credit for defending his title in so many countries but I can understand why some (most) dont like his style.

Toney & Jirov are good H2H but didnt achieve as much as others did.
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johnny nelson ha. had a long reign as champ
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #12
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Default Re: Who is the #2 cruiserweight of all time?

Funny enough, I just rewatched Holfield-Qawi I earlier tonight. I think a fair case could be made for Qawi as the #2 cruiser champ all-time.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:55 PM   #13
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Id have to rank Qawi right under Holy..Im a big fan!
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:48 PM   #14
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Funny enough, I just rewatched Holfield-Qawi I earlier tonight. I think a fair case could be made for Qawi as the #2 cruiser champ all-time.
That would be my vote as well!
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Holyfield is the clear, consensus #1 but who is the 2nd best cruiser & why? (Post 1980 fighters only please)

Is it DeLeon, Nelson, Qawi, Haye, JC Gomez, Adamek, Jirov, Mormeck, Bell, Wamba etc...

Some u missed:

Ralf Rocchigiani
Orlin Norris
Vassiliy Jirov
Krzysztof Wlodarcyzyk
James Toney
Guillermo Jones
Carl Thompson

Gomez was an exceptional CW, Toney ducked him.

Chakkiev is the future...

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