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Old 11-25-2012, 11:30 AM   #31
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Tszyu wasn't coming off a 3 year lay off

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Old 11-25-2012, 11:58 AM   #32
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Tszyu wasn't coming off a 3 year lay off

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Well Tszyu was contemplating retirement at the time so besides being 35 his heart was not in it.

However, the bigger difference is that a prime 27 yr old Hatton that Tszyu fought is both younger and better than a 35 yr old Senchenko who was just KOed by feather fisted Malignaggi.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:33 PM   #33
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Tszyu had an off night. Prime Hatton would have gotten shat on by Bradley, Matthysse, Garcia. Prime Hatton was not that good. Nothing on his resume points to him being that great. He caught Tszyu on an off night at 2 am, there are no other key wins on his resume.


Yes Hatton is lucky the mighty Garcia was not around during his prime...

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Old 11-25-2012, 12:35 PM   #34
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Well Tszyu was contemplating retirement at the time so besides being 35 his heart was not in it.

However, the bigger difference is that a prime 27 yr old Hatton that Tszyu fought is both younger and better than a 35 yr old Senchenko who was just KOed by feather fisted Malignaggi.

but he was the champion, kind of different than a fighter with depression coming back after three years of hard drug abuse and contemplating suicide, bearing in mind his last fight before said drug addled lay-off was a brutal second round KO.

theres a big, big difference, must it be explained?
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Old 11-25-2012, 01:35 PM   #35
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50 year old Tszyu could knock Mitchell out with one hand tied behind his back.
He didn't need to be in his prime.

And yes I would LOVE to see Hatton vs. Tszyu II



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most pointless rematches in boxing history
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:07 PM   #36
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no version of tyszu would have beat hatton that night in manchester.
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:35 PM   #37
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most pointless rematches in boxing history
tszyu vs mitchell II
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Hatton was never in the same class as mayweather, pac, Tszyu.
It's amazing how Tszyu fans try to put him in that bracket. He simply wasn't
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Old 11-25-2012, 02:37 PM   #38
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It's amazing how Tszyu fans try to put him in that bracket. He simply wasn't
i'm a tszyu fan and i totally agree with you
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:11 PM   #39
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but he was the champion, kind of different than a fighter with depression coming back after three years of hard drug abuse and contemplating suicide, bearing in mind his last fight before said drug addled lay-off was a brutal second round KO.

theres a big, big difference, must it be explained?
You're stretching it a bit in my opinion. How could Hatton have done drugs for the last 3 years considering he checked himself into rehab 2 years ago and has claimed to be drug free since then. As for contemplating suicide, was he in that state of mind for months while preparing for this fight? If not, then it has no bearing on the outcome of the fight.

Point is at 35 Tsyzu had a much tougher opponent in a young prime Hatton than Hatton did against a 35 yr old opponent who is at fringe world level at best coming off a KO loss.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:05 PM   #40
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Tszyu wasn't coming off a 3 year lay off

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Actually he was in 2 year layoff before Mitchell fight and coming off few very serious career threatening injures and surgeries



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Old 11-25-2012, 05:59 PM   #41
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First off let me clarify that years later I'm still bitter about what happened to the Great Kostya that night in England

At age 35 he fought Hatton at his absolute peak with Hattons uncle lettering every foul slide including that terrible intentional low blow that Hatton should have been shot for. Kostya still held his own.

Let me remind that Tszyu was older back then, then Ricky is now. And there are morons claiming Hatton would be Kostya in his prime.

At this age Hatton can't even beat a club fighter who failed to beat malignaggi.

So Hatton against prime Kostya would lOol quite different

Hell 43 year old Kostya would brutalize 34 year old Hatton




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Was Tzsyu coming back from 3 years inactivity,where he had balloned up to over 200lbs and had drink and substance abuse problems?

No, he was a world champ and was in the form of his career.

Hatton beat him. Deal with it
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:26 PM   #42
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Actually he was in 2 year layoff before Mitchell fight and coming off few very serious career threatening injures and surgeries



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yeah whatever. cherry picking fighter of the decade. he had 1 fight worth talking about...Judah, and nothing even close before or after. great fighter, very average career
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:41 PM   #43
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You're stretching it a bit in my opinion. How could Hatton have done drugs for the last 3 years considering he checked himself into rehab 2 years ago and has claimed to be drug free since then. As for contemplating suicide, was he in that state of mind for months while preparing for this fight? If not, then it has no bearing on the outcome of the fight.

Point is at 35 Tsyzu had a much tougher opponent in a young prime Hatton than Hatton did against a 35 yr old opponent who is at fringe world level at best coming off a KO loss.

but it wouldnt have a bearing? being not retired, but KNOCKED into retirement? absolutely thrown around the ring by a guy you said was a featherweight?

Tszyu was the champion, he had just destroyed Sharmba Mitchell, he also had a far less active career than Hatton.

As for Senchekos level, I started getting a bad feeling as I watched the build up, Senchenko looked like a man on a mission, Hatton looked like a man looking for personal redemption.

Let's face it, Ricky Hatton had alterior motives for stepping into that ring, motives that weren't about winning world titles, but can I have one last shot to see if I still have it, he did, for about 3 rounds, then reality set in.

Vyacheslav Senchenko has a point to prove, he is still an active fighter with a high ranking, and a good amateur pedigree let's not forget, Paul Malignaggi said "That Senchenko(working in a public ring) looks a lot different than the one I saw on fight week, he looked lazy ad like he didn't wanna be there, that pad session looked very sharp"

It was all downhill from there, Senchenko did not wilt, he did what he had to do.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:58 PM   #44
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I wouldnt say it was fair at all , the amount of fouling ricky was allowed to get away with was insane . Kosta deserved far more respect than the official gave him , im not saying the result would of been different but for a world title fight it didn't sit right with me..


I'm a bit of a Hatton fan myself, but you could clearly see Ricky nod to the ref when he was ready for a break etc.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:58 PM   #45
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Default Re: Reminder: Kostya Tszyu was older when he lost to prime Hatton!!!

When hatton lined up Kostya with that massive uppercut to the balls it was one of the most premeditated fouls i've seen in a boxing ring.
And the ref just smiled and gave hatton a pat on the back lol.
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