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Old 12-14-2012, 11:14 AM   #1
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Default Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

90 percent of boxers today.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:21 AM   #2
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

And less and less counterpunchers and boxer type. Gonna be one hell of a era.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

But Usain Bolt is faster than Jesse Owens blah blah blah
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:27 AM   #4
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

Who are the upcoming boxers who fit this criteria exactly..
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Old 12-14-2012, 12:35 PM   #5
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

At least a decent fraction of these fighters have reasons for those style, their movement sometimes is just their incredible defense.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:33 AM   #6
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90 percent of boxers today.
SO what?

If you have the skills to pull it off, like Ali, RJJ, Floyd, Vitali, etc, then it is a way to save a lot of energy.

Also, (again, if you can pull it off) it gives you a big offensive advantage, because it's much harder to see a punch coming from the "low arm" position.

Of course, then you have the Amir Kahns of the world, who simply DON'T have the skills to pull it off. I blame that on massively over-hyped trainers, who should know better and do something about it.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:37 AM   #7
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Sounds like a Mexican fighter
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:41 AM   #8
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

No such thing as having "no defense" unless you have no arms and have a spinal condition which leaves you unable to move your waist at all. Hate that term.

This era shows a general downgrade in skill from past ones, yes, but I always laugh when posters ridicule offensive fighters for taking risks they have to in order to win. Being a consistent offensive fighter takes plenty of skill. Looking good and being good are two different things.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:42 AM   #9
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

even if that is the case what exactly are you doing pillz? It is easier to comment and judge then to actual lace them up and go through that type of punishment.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:51 AM   #10
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Default Re: Zero Defense, Low Hands, and Offensive type boxers

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90 percent of boxers today.
is there something particularly wrong with that?

You realize pushing for the opposite of that would effectively erase the level of excitement this sport creates?

I understand you have a strong opinion on fighters should be boxing purists, but if the sport was an extremist like yourself, it would lose its luster and its dynamic quality...

Diversity of style is what makes boxing so compelling, once you realize this fact, you would find a bit more inner peace and stop making such stupid threads about your extremist views
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:49 AM   #11
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= more guys getting K.O'd

More entertainment for us
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Old 12-15-2012, 01:51 AM   #12
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90%?

Hardly
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:34 AM   #13
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im sick of the shoulder roll fakes. Mayweather & broner are the only guys that should be doing that.

you know who has a great skill set yet still looks silly with his hands down nonstop? sergio.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:38 AM   #14
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I doubt you can find one division which 90% of boxers fight with their hands down let alone say it about the sport as a whole.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:42 AM   #15
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90 percent of boxers today.
You're probably also a guy who thinks Duran had no defence either and Hagler was a full time brawler and not a counter-puncher.
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