Is Kelly Pavlik still in his prime?

SuzieQ49 · 11-24-2012, 11:21 AM

How do you rate him as a puncher? How much of a threat does he pose to Ward compared to other 168lbers?

finley · 11-24-2012, 11:30 AM

Over rated American hype job. Straight out of the Jeff Lacy, Dawson etc etc etc school of way way over rated fighters.

Basically he is shit.

Tyler-Durden · 11-24-2012, 11:30 AM

When was Pavlik's prime ? When he was on queer street against Taylor ?

Badbot · 11-24-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyler-Durden

When was Pavlik's prime ? When he was on queer street against Taylor ?

Yep

Lets be real, that was Pavlik at his best.
Then after the Hopkins loss he seemed to on the way down and it looks like post Martinez life just took too much out of him.
He must be more active and work really hard on his craft if he wants to be what he used to be.

Rock0052 · 11-24-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by finley

Over rated American hype job. Straight out of the Jeff Lacy, Dawson etc etc etc school of way way over rated fighters.

Basically he is shit.

How the hell is he overrated?

DOM5153 · 11-24-2012, 11:36 AM

Three to fours years past his best, gets harshly judged though.

damian38 · 11-24-2012, 11:40 AM

Ward is going to make him look very bad

pipe wrenched · 11-24-2012, 11:43 AM

pipe wrenched · 11-24-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM5153

Three to fours years past his best, gets harshly judged though.

That's putting it lightly......

Tyler-Durden · 11-24-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Badbot

Yep

Lets be real, that was Pavlik at his best.
Then after the Hopkins loss he seemed to on the way down and it looks like post Martinez life just took too much out of him.
He must be more active and work really hard on his craft if he wants to be what he used to be.

I don't believe he'll ever be serious enough again. I mean he was drunk as fuck yesterday night again.

The Ward fight is only 2 months away.

Bladegunner · 11-24-2012, 11:50 AM

Ask Hermit

brnxhands · 11-24-2012, 11:54 AM

Damn people really hate pavlik on this forum. He could keep playing it safe with careful match making picking up pay checks but he signed to fight the best super middle in the world

KnuckleUp99 · 11-24-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SuzieQ49

How do you rate him as a puncher? How much of a threat does he pose to Ward compared to other 168lbers?

I think he's past his prime....He's still a top fighter in his division but he's a little past it.

pipe wrenched · 11-24-2012, 11:59 AM

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Damn people really hate pavlik on this forum. He could keep playing it safe with careful match making picking up pay checks but he signed to fight the best super middle in the world

It's incredible, really.

We are talking about a figher that is 40-2 with an 80% KO rate.

RobertV77 · 11-24-2012, 12:05 PM

Yeah he is. Just like Jermaine Taylor and Bernard Hopkins are as well.

Hopkins in terms of boxing mind and ability to execute a rational plan in a fight i would say he still is. Taylor and Pavlik look like shadows of their former selves despite being young men.

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