Whose record is most deceptive when you look only at the win-loss ratio?

Haggis McJackass · 11-28-2012, 02:13 AM

The two obvious ones are Randy (19-11) and BJ (16-8-2).

Both of them are clearly much better than that record indicates, when factoring in quality of opposition, weight-jumping and ridiculous age (in Randy's case.)

But who else has a shitty-looking win-loss ratio while being a damned good fighter, or a sparkling record filled with bullshit decisions and fights against nobodies?

Who has a record of, say, 20-2, but IYO it should be 17-5 if the judges called the fights right?

rusty nails · 11-28-2012, 02:15 AM

was going to say hendo in terms of how unnapreciated it is but i dont think thats the point of this thread

Haggis McJackass · 11-28-2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rusty nails

was going to say hendo in terms of how unnapreciated it is but i dont think thats the point of this thread

Nah, 29-8 seems fair to me. He's fought at the highest levels forever and has picked up his fair share of losses fair and square. But 29-8 for Hendo isn't like BJ, where you look at it and see he wins less than 2/3rds of his fights and think WTF.

blagovech · 11-28-2012, 02:36 AM

guida dude got robbed alot

Rob_Floyd · 11-28-2012, 02:46 AM

I can't even think of a fight where Guida was robbed.

kel · 11-28-2012, 02:46 AM

Fedor

He should have at least 6-7 losses

Rob_Floyd · 11-28-2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kel

Fedor

He should have at least 6-7 losses

Well, he has four losses, and one of those shouldn't count, so he should really only have three losses. When it comes to him being on the right side of a robbery, you can only make an argument for the Arona fight...

...so, what?

Matt Ldn · 11-28-2012, 02:54 AM

Hector Lombard for the opposite way.

blagovech · 11-28-2012, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

I can't even think of a fight where Guida was robbed.

griffin
thomas
sanchez should have been a draw

Rob_Floyd · 11-28-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blagovech

griffin
thomas
sanchez should have been a draw

Disagree with Sanchez and Griffin. Thought those decisions were correct.

The Thomas fight doesn't even exist within my memory right now. Have to rewatch that one.

Matt Ldn · 11-28-2012, 03:01 AM

Sanchez/Guida was a clear win for Sanchez IIRC

blagovech · 11-28-2012, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kel

Fedor

He should have at least 6-7 losses

http://www.lionsdenu.com/wp-content/...9/09/fedor.jpg
http://www.mmaconvert.com/wp-content...dor_ladies.jpg
http://www.mmaclub.org/wp-content/ga...-got-raped.jpg

Haggis McJackass · 11-28-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blagovech

http://www.lionsdenu.com/wp-content/...9/09/fedor.jpg

Brilliant.

blagovech · 11-28-2012, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Disagree with Sanchez and Griffin. Thought those decisions were correct.

The Thomas fight doesn't even exist within my memory right now. Have to rewatch that one.

you seriously think griffin beat guida?

Rob_Floyd · 11-28-2012, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blagovech

you seriously think griffin beat guida?

I recall it being incredibly close, but not having an issue with the decision. I guess I'll rewatch that one again, as well. It was a great fight.

11-28-2012, 02:13 AM	#1
Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: From the Lands Down Under. Posts: 22,502 vCash: 177	Whose record is most deceptive when you look only at the win-loss ratio? The two obvious ones are Randy (19-11) and BJ (16-8-2). Both of them are clearly much better than that record indicates, when factoring in quality of opposition, weight-jumping and ridiculous age (in Randy's case.) But who else has a shitty-looking win-loss ratio while being a damned good fighter, or a sparkling record filled with bullshit decisions and fights against nobodies? Who has a record of, say, 20-2, but IYO it should be 17-5 if the judges called the fights right?
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rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: dunno..where am i??? Posts: 6,723 vCash: 1000	Re: Whose record is most deceptive when you look only at the win-loss ratio? was going to say hendo in terms of how unnapreciated it is but i dont think thats the point of this thread
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kel Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,234 vCash: 75	Re: Whose record is most deceptive when you look only at the win-loss ratio? Fedor He should have at least 6-7 losses
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Matt Ldn Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NSW via Leeds/London Posts: 4,842 vCash: 75	Re: Whose record is most deceptive when you look only at the win-loss ratio? Sanchez/Guida was a clear win for Sanchez IIRC
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