Pedro Diaz

church11 · 12-02-2012, 10:26 AM

Anyone think Cotto will change his corner again and get rid of Pedro? I'm assuming he won't because he probably only has one more fight left in him. I personally think Diaz is a good fit for Cotto.

PivotPunch · 12-02-2012, 10:33 AM

Diaz is still the best trainer for Cotto

Mamerto · 12-02-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by church11

Anyone think Cotto will change his corner again and get rid of Pedro? I'm assuming he won't because he probably only has one more fight left in him. I personally think Diaz is a good fit for Cotto.

It's not the trainer, it's Cotto. He shouldn't be fighting at 154. He looks like a fucking T-Rex with those short arms.

fatcity · 12-02-2012, 10:46 AM

True,but where was Cotto's jab last nite?He looked confused and frustrated all nite long with no answers coming from the corner.

tonyb · 12-02-2012, 11:25 AM

u kiddin me? pedro is a great conditioner, but thats it. look at cottos balance,HORRIBLE! and as fatcity says, where is his jab. he doesent use his jab too get inside,or keep distance.

church11 · 12-02-2012, 11:26 AM

I agree that he looked a little lost in there. I watched it on TSN here in Canada and they cut to commercials between rounds for the most part, so I couldn't hear what either corner was saying.

I kept thinking that he was too small to be fighting at 154. That 5"-6" reach advantage Trout had was definitely making Cotto's arms look short.

lol @ t-rex arms

church11 · 12-02-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyb

u kiddin me? pedro is a great conditioner, but thats it. look at cottos balance,HORRIBLE! and as fatcity says, where is his jab. he doesent use his jab too get inside,or keep distance.

I was trying to figure this out too. Cotto's jab used to be lethal, and last night it was way under-utilized. Maybe because of the reach disadvantage.

Hatesrats · 12-02-2012, 11:30 AM

Miguel should have fought shook like he did in the Margo II fight.
They thought they were going to smash Trout & decided to WAR.

Diaz is useless as an attack coach.

igor_otsky · 12-02-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mamerto

He looks like a fucking T-Rex with those short arms.

Consu · 12-02-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatesrats

Miguel should have fought shook like he did in the Margo II fight.
They thought they were going to smash Trout & decided to WAR.

Nah.. That wouldn't work. Trout isn't Margarito. Margarito is so one paced and predictable that it's possible for a smaller man fight from the outside. Trout is/was a whole different thing.

Kid Cubano · 12-02-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatesrats

Miguel should have fought shook like he did in the Margo II fight.
They thought they were going to smash Trout & decided to WAR.

Diaz is useless as an attack coach.

It's hard to outjab a taller opponent who's also jabbing.
Margo isn't aware of what a jab is. It's why PAC had his ass handled.
Can't compare Margo style with Trout.
It's why Diaz elected to go inside and work the body.
Classic textbook

dangerousity · 12-02-2012, 12:12 PM

Problem with this matchup is Trout is a tall southpaw. Landing Cotto's best weapon, left hook is hard against a much taller opponent specially a southpaw cos its more likely to hit their shoulder rather than their chin as you punch up. You need a good straight right against a southpaw to go down the middle, with Cotto's short arm and non-existent right hand, that was pretty difficult. The second option for Cotto other than outboxing him from the outside which he couldnt do because of the reach, height and speed of Trout was to go inside and bully him. The problem with this second option is, Trout is the bigger man, hard to bully him. Usually you can see Cotto the much stronger man in fights who can throw fighters around, he couldn't do that with Trout.

Bad matchup. I think Canelo stops him btw.

DonnyMo · 12-02-2012, 12:12 PM

If cotto didnt force the fight there wouldnt have been a fight, thats why trout isnt getting a canelo fight..neither is that bag of shit lara

Hatesrats · 12-02-2012, 12:37 PM

War or back peddling didn't work anyway so...
Diaz lives to train another day should Miguel choose to continue.

OnePunchKO · 12-02-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyMo

If cotto didnt force the fight there wouldnt have been a fight, thats why trout isnt getting a canelo fight..neither is that bag of shit lara

12-02-2012, 10:26 AM	#1
church11 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Windsor, Ont. Posts: 182 vCash: 500	Pedro Diaz Anyone think Cotto will change his corner again and get rid of Pedro? I'm assuming he won't because he probably only has one more fight left in him. I personally think Diaz is a good fit for Cotto.
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12-02-2012, 10:33 AM	#2
PivotPunch Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,734 vCash: 75	Re: Pedro Diaz Diaz is still the best trainer for Cotto
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12-02-2012, 10:46 AM	#4
fatcity P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Battery Park Posts: 15,221 vCash: 1080	Re: Pedro Diaz True,but where was Cotto's jab last nite?He looked confused and frustrated all nite long with no answers coming from the corner.
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12-02-2012, 11:25 AM	#5
tonyb Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 205 vCash: 500	Re: Pedro Diaz u kiddin me? pedro is a great conditioner, but thats it. look at cottos balance,HORRIBLE! and as fatcity says, where is his jab. he doesent use his jab too get inside,or keep distance.
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12-02-2012, 11:26 AM	#6
church11 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Windsor, Ont. Posts: 182 vCash: 500	Re: Pedro Diaz I agree that he looked a little lost in there. I watched it on TSN here in Canada and they cut to commercials between rounds for the most part, so I couldn't hear what either corner was saying. I kept thinking that he was too small to be fighting at 154. That 5"-6" reach advantage Trout had was definitely making Cotto's arms look short. lol @ t-rex arms
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12-02-2012, 11:30 AM	#8
Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 26,013 vCash: 75	Re: Pedro Diaz Miguel should have fought shook like he did in the Margo II fight. They thought they were going to smash Trout & decided to WAR. Diaz is useless as an attack coach.
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12-02-2012, 12:12 PM	#12
dangerousity Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 7,445 vCash: 204	Re: Pedro Diaz Problem with this matchup is Trout is a tall southpaw. Landing Cotto's best weapon, left hook is hard against a much taller opponent specially a southpaw cos its more likely to hit their shoulder rather than their chin as you punch up. You need a good straight right against a southpaw to go down the middle, with Cotto's short arm and non-existent right hand, that was pretty difficult. The second option for Cotto other than outboxing him from the outside which he couldnt do because of the reach, height and speed of Trout was to go inside and bully him. The problem with this second option is, Trout is the bigger man, hard to bully him. Usually you can see Cotto the much stronger man in fights who can throw fighters around, he couldn't do that with Trout. Bad matchup. I think Canelo stops him btw.
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12-02-2012, 12:12 PM	#13
DonnyMo Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 167 vCash: 500	Re: Pedro Diaz If cotto didnt force the fight there wouldnt have been a fight, thats why trout isnt getting a canelo fight..neither is that bag of shit lara
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12-02-2012, 12:37 PM	#14
Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 26,013 vCash: 75	Re: Pedro Diaz War or back peddling didn't work anyway so... Diaz lives to train another day should Miguel choose to continue.
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