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Old 12-01-2012, 08:05 AM   #1
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Default if this guy can make undetectable steroids

then why is testing ever an issue?

any boxer with enough money and power to afford these gods of PED making would hire him and all would happily submit to any form of testing

pacquiao is one of IF NOT THE BIGGEST star in boxing worldwide yet testing has been an issue with him for years



i just dont get it. until someone can answer me this i wouldent even think for a second these "undetectable ped's" exist
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:41 AM   #2
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there is allways a chance that they might find traces, and then u are ****ed. its only 97% bulletproof.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #3
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let them use PED's. If using PED's make the fight more exciting and entertaining. Fans would be the winner.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #4
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It's probably not undetectable but just very unlikely the be found, there's always the chance that something doesn't work out the way it should have. And it's probably not like they can take whatever they want whenever they want it's most likely still easier and more effective if the testing is less strict
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:15 AM   #5
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let them use PED's. If using PED's make the fight more exciting and entertaining. Fans would be the winner.
Its to do with health of Athletes
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:17 AM   #6
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let them use PED's. If using PED's make the fight more exciting and entertaining. Fans would be the winner.


how then do clean boxers like money get to enjoy their money should they get hurt?
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:47 AM   #7
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All anabolics are detectable. Understanding active half life and detection times is how to beat the test, which is simple if you know your testing date. Esterless gear like test suspension is undedectable after 2-3 days since administration stops. You can get all the benefit right up until right before the test. It's idiots who know nothing about pharmacology...which isn't difficult to learn.... that use shit like deca(nandrolone), long estered testosterones, and equipose who get caught because the detectable metabolites linger for months even after use stops. The basic steroid test looks for the ratio between testosterone and epitestosterone. Another way to beat the test is to simply take epitestosterone along with the anabolics to keep the ratio within the acceptable range, regardless of elevated levels. Weight cutting aids like clenbuterol (morales) linger for up to a week. No STEROID is undetecable. It's about half life and detection time of the metabolites. GH is detectable through blood tests for GH serum levels and/or IGF levels. New peptides such as GHRP are undetectable though, their performance enhancement benefit is less than that of traditional methods, but still a benefit. PED use rampant in combat sports regardless.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:49 AM   #8
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It's an issue because guys like Mayweather want to make sure they can take their own undetectable steriods without allowing their opponents.

It's a cruel joke, made my an insecure person who is scared of getting the **** beat outta him.

It's simple.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:08 AM   #9
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If this guy can make undetectable steroids, then why is testing ever an issue?

Answer: To make the consumer/Fan feel happy. (It's a cover-up)
^Roswell style
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:27 AM   #10
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Because Heredia isn't known for working w/ boxers to begin with. Marquez was the only boxer desperate enough to hire an ex-PED cheat.
Ward, Donaire?
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:18 AM   #11
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You can still get ktfo using peds ...less not forgot.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:22 AM   #12
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how then do clean boxers like money get to enjoy their money should they get hurt?
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:29 AM   #13
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You dont need to make them undetectable as long as you have money to cover your ass up in case you fail one..... or three like the Rich coward did.
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