Wach tested positive for anabolic steroids after the Klitschko fight

[DrMo]

Originally Posted by VivaNazVegas

If Wlad was juicing, he wouldn't have such a glass chin

You clearly dont know anything about PEDs

Exhibit A

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Larry was juiced up to the eyeballs on a cocktail of PEDs & it didnt help his chin at all.

[Ahurath]

That's why his body looked so good compared to before.

[iceman71]

Originally Posted by DrMo

He can afford the best PEDs & the best medical/scientific assistance

Look at all the guys who have been caught, its the B level contender types who don't have the finances to get the best & beat the test.

Wlad is one of the most obvious users in boxing

u butthurt Haye fanboy fag stfu

[simmo]

He should ask his dealer for his money back.

[VivaNazVegas]

Originally Posted by DrMo

You clearly dont know anything about PEDs

Exhibit A

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Larry was juiced up to the eyeballs on a cocktail of PEDs & it didnt help his chin at all.

I stand by my statement.
If Wlad was juicing, he wouldn't have such a glass chin

[Vidic]

Originally Posted by lzolnier

For starters, that is not circular logic, if you even know what that term really means. Second, world class influential philosophers like Peter Singer have used this very same logic to argue for the legalization of steroids in professional athletes. See for yourself:



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Your argument is that an athlete is on steroids, because all other athletes are on them

And you're now trying to argue it should be legalised?

[KidDynamite]

Originally Posted by VivaNazVegas

I stand by my statement.
If Wlad was juicing, he wouldn't have such a glass chin

Anabolic steroids won't do anything to help out your "chin"

They increase your muscle building capacity ... which doesn't have much to do with how well you can take a punch. You think that steroids helped Tommy Morrison's chin?

Wlad might be taking PEDs, who knows?

[CrossedLine]

Originally Posted by DrMo

He can afford the best PEDs & the best medical/scientific assistance

Look at all the guys who have been caught, its the B level contender types who don't have the finances to get the best & beat the test.

Wlad is one of the most obvious users in boxing

Or you can look at it as the champ is much better, and the fringe B level competitors feel the need and pressure to get stronger and better to stay relevant so they cheat. Dumbass.

[CrossedLine]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite

Anabolic steroids won't do anything to help out your "chin"

They increase your muscle building capacity ... which doesn't have much to do with how well you can take a punch. You think that steroids helped Tommy Morrison's chin?

Wlad might be taking PEDs, who knows?

Ever heard of roid rage? Thats the strength and 'invincibility' effects to the extreme. People get shot and keep going with certain PEDs. Plus he could strengthen the neck muscles, which absolutely has a correlation.

[irishny]

Originally Posted by Ahurath

That's why his body looked so good compared to before.

...did it?

[itsa huge bitch]

Originally Posted by turbina

Article posted citing Wach saying he is devasted after hearing this news, and claims he never took any PEDs, and had no idea about this until phones started ringing today.

what you want him to say??

whats took use so long..ive been taking these for a long time and use are only finding out now..ive spent my cash so fuck off..

so long suckers??

hes a cheat and needs banned ...DISGRACE

[itsa huge bitch]

Originally Posted by irishny

...did it?

wach was in pretty good shape compared to other fights for wlad..i just put it down to hard work..

[Boxing Fanatic]

wtf cares? the roids did nothing for him. plus, they havent gotten the b sample done yet, so, hes innocent until proven guilty

[KidDynamite]

Originally Posted by CrossedLine

Ever heard of roid rage? Thats the strength and 'invincibility' effects to the extreme. People get shot and keep going with certain PEDs. Plus he could strengthen the neck muscles, which absolutely has a correlation.

You have to train that part of the body to get results. Its not going to magically make your neck bigger.

Morrison also had a large neck but it didn't stop him from getting KTFO. Having a more muscular neck can help punch resistance, but not to the extent you think.

Vitali's neck isn't massive by any means yet he has a great chin. Frank Bruno is another guy who had a massive neck yet his chin was never that great.

There's no magic formula to building punch resistance

[DrMo]

Originally Posted by CrossedLine

Or you can look at it as the champ is much better, and the fringe B level competitors feel the need and pressure to get stronger and better to stay relevant so they cheat. Dumbass.

Ok then, all the elite top level fighters are clean & its only the guys they beat who are using PEDs.