Would you be pissed off too?

blueballs1978 · 02-01-2008, 08:40 PM

On thursday night i was getting a lift home from football training when the hatton pbf fight came up- I explained why pbf won etc but people still said they expected hatton to win.

tonight we were in the pub and the oakey haymer fight came on. i said during roumd 1 the guy in the black trunks will win (this was to keep it at the non-boxing fans level).I was ridiculed as the other guy was "taller, bigger and looked better". oakey won.

My question is, does it piss you off when people argue until the cows come home about fights when they know nothing?

I am still pissed off.

Polymath · 02-01-2008, 09:01 PM

I can understand that

I mean, I wouldn't pretend to know anything about say, Ice Hockey - but people do feel like they can with boxing

Dunky McCafferty · 02-01-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs1978

On thursday night i was getting a lift home from football training when the hatton pbf fight came up- I explained why pbf won etc but people still said they expected hatton to win.

tonight we were in the pub and the oakey haymer fight came on. i said during roumd 1 the guy in the black trunks will win (this was to keep it at the non-boxing fans level).I was ridiculed as the other guy was "taller, bigger and looked better". oakey won.

My question is, does it piss you off when people argue until the cows come home about fights when they know nothing?

I am still pissed off.

I got one of those guys years ago in a pub, we got talking about boxing & his knowledge of boxing was "liking that wee guy Hamed" That didnt stop him attempting to give me a lesson in boxing knowledge, he pointed to his chin & told me there was a precise pressure point, & that if this precise part of your chin got hit, you would be knocked out immediately. I felt like trying it out on him to shut him up

Thats the most in-depth boxing conversation I have ever had with the average bloke in the pub, & the reason I stick to football conversation, cos when you try & talk boxing its a pointless exercise. Cos even if they know fuck all about the sport, they will always try to act as if they know more than you

Its a boxing thing, dont ask me why people who know nothing about the sport seem to think they are experts on the noble art.

stuey · 02-02-2008, 03:32 AM

this is a common problem.
i met a load of geezers who had travelled to vegas for hatton mayweather, they tried telling me that mayweather had never faced a puncher like hatton, or anyone as strong and skilled

i tried explaing that whilst i felt hatton had a chance (which i got a bit wonky admittedly) he was by no means the biggest puncher mayweather had faced, nor the strongest. and definately not the most skillfull, they just continued with their claims and told me they were betting big on hatton to ko floyd early...

i hate the 'man in the pub' boxing fan

02-02-2008, 04:15 AM

That is why football is so popular because the game is so expansive. What with different clubs, histories, expectations, amount of footballers and transferes ect. Evan when you are talking to a complete pleb about the game you can easily change your topic to something easy to comprende like "that goal was good", very simple stuff but when you talk to a non boxing fan about boxing you can not get to the simple dynamics of the fight.

Best conversation boxing wise I had in a pub was before christmas I was with a mate sat near a couple of old guys (60's or something) and I was talking about a fight I had seen on sky night before and this old guy butted in and started talking about boxing in his day. Very cool guy, I can not remember his name but he was an area champion and gave a fantastic insight into an age I know little about.

blueballs1978 · 02-02-2008, 07:13 AM

It is bloody annoying.

Anyway, I forgot to add this last night (it will make you laugh) but on thursday in the car home from footie training after the hatton-pbf chat one guy said "have you seen that enzo mac, he is bloody good". I said he had been in the ring with hand-picked not so good boxers and the example given to me of how good he is was the bobby gunn fight. Unbelievable!

While it is good that boxing is back in the spotlight conversations like that sometimes make me think that i would rather nobody watched boxing unless they know about it.

themacallan · 02-02-2008, 07:22 AM

i've actually watched a few fights on tv recently. Yes I have. Hatton's fight and jones's last one.

i was watching with two guys who hadn't boxed and was constantly telling them how the fight was going and what was going to happen noext. Strangely i was correct half the time and they now think i am a complete boxing analyst and ask me really dumb technical stuff like 'is it better to jab, jab straight right or jab hook?'

non-boxing fans should stfu until they have watched enough to know about styles, tactics and moves.

02-02-2008, 07:31 AM

For me it's the same as the F1. Just because we now have a popular British driver everyone seems to think they know about F1. I'm all for new boxing fans but when they talk as if they know it all it's just annoying. I hear people at work saying things like "Joe's gonna destroy Hopkins" when I know they've never even seen Hopkins fight & propbably watched Joe twice. I even had some idiot saying he hopes "Calzaghe KO's Hopkins then calls out & Mayweather KO's him too".

w4s1m · 02-02-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blueballs1978

On thursday night i was getting a lift home from football training when the hatton pbf fight came up- I explained why pbf won etc but people still said they expected hatton to win.

tonight we were in the pub and the oakey haymer fight came on. i said during roumd 1 the guy in the black trunks will win (this was to keep it at the non-boxing fans level).I was ridiculed as the other guy was "taller, bigger and looked better". oakey won.

My question is, does it piss you off when people argue until the cows come home about fights when they know nothing?

I am still pissed off.

it was the same with me, as some of my mates were dead sure that PBF was scared of hatton in the build up to the fight, they all certain that htton would break PBFs ribs and he would be too powerful for PBF despite hatton struggling in his fights in that weight. when i said that Hatton would get KO in the late rounds i got looks from mates that i was crazy but i got texts the next morning saying im mystic Meg as i had also said that Amir khan would beat earl within 2 rounds.

rooq · 02-02-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

he pointed to his chin & told me there was a precise pressure point, & that if this precise part of your chin got hit, you would be knocked out immediately. I felt like trying it out on him to shut him up

that tickled me.

my old thai boxing instructor used to come out with stuff like that. although he wasn't a pissed up scottish bloke talkin shit in the pub.

Claypole · 02-02-2008, 11:18 AM

The worst thing is when the armchair/pub fan gets his ignorant prediction right.

steelem · 02-02-2008, 11:33 AM

i think blueballs is trying to brag he knows somet about boxing - wow - i hope you do m8 your on here enough - im sure if your m8 was on here as much as you then you might have an interseting conversation - in fact maybe recommend onto the forum!!

steelem · 02-02-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by heihaci

It's worse with the rise of MMA
you got all these ppl talking about how MMA is "superior" and taking over the world and that boxing is dead!!

boxing will never die but mma is bloody exciting - dont you think

Max Molyneux · 02-02-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs1978

On thursday night i was getting a lift home from football training when the hatton pbf fight came up- I explained why pbf won etc but people still said they expected hatton to win.

tonight we were in the pub and the oakey haymer fight came on. i said during roumd 1 the guy in the black trunks will win (this was to keep it at the non-boxing fans level).I was ridiculed as the other guy was "taller, bigger and looked better". oakey won.

My question is, does it piss you off when people argue until the cows come home about fights when they know nothing?

I am still pissed off.

I've seen that football fan mentality even with the purist fans on here and boxrec talk like that.

Polymath · 02-02-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by heihaci

yeah MMA is exciting (but i find the grappling boring to watch)
It's those ppl who feel the need to compare it to boxing all the time eg ppl claiming that a MMA fighters punch harder than boxers!!

Are you in primary school?

Who the f'k says things like that?

And if you dont like grappling you dont like mma, its what separated it from boxing/striking arts.

02-01-2008, 08:40 PM	#1
blueballs1978 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 285 vCash: 1000	Would you be pissed off too? On thursday night i was getting a lift home from football training when the hatton pbf fight came up- I explained why pbf won etc but people still said they expected hatton to win. tonight we were in the pub and the oakey haymer fight came on. i said during roumd 1 the guy in the black trunks will win (this was to keep it at the non-boxing fans level).I was ridiculed as the other guy was "taller, bigger and looked better". oakey won. My question is, does it piss you off when people argue until the cows come home about fights when they know nothing? I am still pissed off. Last edited by Bummy Davis; 01-23-2007 at 09:23 PM.
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02-01-2008, 09:01 PM	#2
Polymath Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,724 vCash: 500	Re: Would you be pissed off too? I can understand that I mean, I wouldn't pretend to know anything about say, Ice Hockey - but people do feel like they can with boxing
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02-02-2008, 03:32 AM	#4
stuey Never bet on England East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: the sham Posts: 8,955 vCash: 622	Re: Would you be pissed off too? this is a common problem. i met a load of geezers who had travelled to vegas for hatton mayweather, they tried telling me that mayweather had never faced a puncher like hatton, or anyone as strong and skilled i tried explaing that whilst i felt hatton had a chance (which i got a bit wonky admittedly) he was by no means the biggest puncher mayweather had faced, nor the strongest. and definately not the most skillfull, they just continued with their claims and told me they were betting big on hatton to ko floyd early... i hate the 'man in the pub' boxing fan
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02-02-2008, 04:15 AM	#5
dwilson Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Would you be pissed off too? That is why football is so popular because the game is so expansive. What with different clubs, histories, expectations, amount of footballers and transferes ect. Evan when you are talking to a complete pleb about the game you can easily change your topic to something easy to comprende like "that goal was good", very simple stuff but when you talk to a non boxing fan about boxing you can not get to the simple dynamics of the fight. Best conversation boxing wise I had in a pub was before christmas I was with a mate sat near a couple of old guys (60's or something) and I was talking about a fight I had seen on sky night before and this old guy butted in and started talking about boxing in his day. Very cool guy, I can not remember his name but he was an area champion and gave a fantastic insight into an age I know little about.
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02-02-2008, 07:13 AM	#6
blueballs1978 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 285 vCash: 1000	Re: Would you be pissed off too? It is bloody annoying. Anyway, I forgot to add this last night (it will make you laugh) but on thursday in the car home from footie training after the hatton-pbf chat one guy said "have you seen that enzo mac, he is bloody good". I said he had been in the ring with hand-picked not so good boxers and the example given to me of how good he is was the bobby gunn fight. Unbelievable! While it is good that boxing is back in the spotlight conversations like that sometimes make me think that i would rather nobody watched boxing unless they know about it.
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02-02-2008, 07:22 AM	#7
themacallan Chin Chin East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Slurpacockski is SERBIAN GRASS Posts: 6,526 vCash: 500	Re: Would you be pissed off too? i've actually watched a few fights on tv recently. Yes I have. Hatton's fight and jones's last one. i was watching with two guys who hadn't boxed and was constantly telling them how the fight was going and what was going to happen noext. Strangely i was correct half the time and they now think i am a complete boxing analyst and ask me really dumb technical stuff like 'is it better to jab, jab straight right or jab hook?' non-boxing fans should stfu until they have watched enough to know about styles, tactics and moves.
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02-02-2008, 07:31 AM	#8
dan-b Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Would you be pissed off too? For me it's the same as the F1. Just because we now have a popular British driver everyone seems to think they know about F1. I'm all for new boxing fans but when they talk as if they know it all it's just annoying. I hear people at work saying things like "Joe's gonna destroy Hopkins" when I know they've never even seen Hopkins fight & propbably watched Joe twice. I even had some idiot saying he hopes "Calzaghe KO's Hopkins then calls out & Mayweather KO's him too".
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02-02-2008, 11:18 AM	#11
Claypole Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harlow, UK Posts: 6,032 vCash: 922	Re: Would you be pissed off too? The worst thing is when the armchair/pub fan gets his ignorant prediction right.
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02-02-2008, 11:33 AM	#12
steelem Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 705 vCash: 1000	Re: Would you be pissed off too? i think blueballs is trying to brag he knows somet about boxing - wow - i hope you do m8 your on here enough - im sure if your m8 was on here as much as you then you might have an interseting conversation - in fact maybe recommend onto the forum!!
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