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Old 12-06-2012, 02:38 PM   #1
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this has probably been here several times but i haven't seen it lately... so what's your top 10 heavweight H2H list of all time without paying any attention to resume? mine is:

1. ali
2. lewis
3. tyson
4. holyfield
5. holmes
6. vitali klitschko
7. foreman
8. wladimir klitschko
9. louis
10. bowe
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:45 PM   #2
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this has probably been here several times but i haven't seen it lately... so what's your top 10 heavweight H2H list of all time without paying any attention to resume? mine is:

1. ali
2. lewis
3. tyson
4. holyfield
5. holmes
6. vitali klitschko
7. foreman
8. wladimir klitschko
9. louis
10. bowe
I have no problem with the first three names but after that we start asking questions.

I don't see Holyfield as being a H2H monster at Heavyweight. I'm a fan of Riddick Bowe but I don't see too much of a basis for ranking him alongside the likes of Louis and Tyson, even in a H2H sense. The Klitschkos? Okay, I see why they are hard to beat, but neither of them have had the opportunity to prove themselves against truly top level opposition. For that reason I'd hesitate to list them so highly on these lists.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:54 PM   #3
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I have no problem with the first three names but after that we start asking questions.

I don't see Holyfield as being a H2H monster at Heavyweight. I'm a fan of Riddick Bowe but I don't see too much of a basis for ranking him alongside the likes of Louis and Tyson, even in a H2H sense. The Klitschkos? Okay, I see why they are hard to beat, but neither of them have had the opportunity to prove themselves against truly top level opposition. For that reason I'd hesitate to list them so highly on these lists.
Bowe defeated prime Holyfield twice. A feat no one else was able to accomplish.

Not Lewis,not Tyson,not Foreman (old version anyway)
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:56 PM   #4
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01 Frazier (Only Foreman & Liston can stop him!)
02 Joe Louis
03 Ali
04 Holmes
05 Foreman
06 Lewis
07 Liston
08 Tyson
09 Marciano
10 Holyfield
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:58 PM   #5
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Bowe defeated prime Holyfield twice. A feat no one else was able to accomplish.

Not Lewis,not Tyson,not Foreman (old version anyway)

Your title "Lummox Lewis=BUM" is funny because its Ironic. Its like saying GOD = Bum.

For example if you put Bowes name up there it wouldnt be nearly as funny.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:01 PM   #6
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01 Frazier (Only Foreman & Liston can stop him!)
Frazier would get the beating of a lifetime against Bowe, Lewis, K brothers. Heck even Tyson & Holyfield would rape him. Frazier was a great of his era but in h2h comparisons he's hopelessly outmatched.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:03 PM   #7
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Frazier would get the beating of a lifetime against Bowe, Lewis, K brothers. Heck even Tyson & Holyfield would rape him. Frazier was a great of his era but in h2h comparisons he's hopelessly outmatched.

























































































































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Old 12-06-2012, 03:09 PM   #8
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1. Ali
2. Lewis
3. Louis
4. Holmes
5. Holyfield
6. Tyson
7. Liston
8. Frazier
9. Wlad
10. Foreman
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Your title "Lummox Lewis=BUM" is funny because its Ironic. Its like saying GOD = Bum.

For example if you put Bowes name up there it wouldnt be nearly as funny.
I dislike Lummox not all of the UK fighters so chill out. I personally think Lummox is an overrated cherry picker. The UK has had some much more deserving guys. Poor Henry Cooper.

At least Bowe beat prime Holyfield. Lummox could barely handle old Holyfield.
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LMFAO I would love to see Wlad try and jab/jab/grab on Tyson, Louis, Lewis, Foreman or Bowe.

He fights stiffs & CWs that is why his tactics work. Against a skilled HW he would get KO'ed, infact he has been KO'ed by many unskilled HWs.
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I would love to see Wlad try and jab/jab/grab on Louis

He fights stiffs & CWs
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:25 PM   #12
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Lummox could barely handle old Holyfield.
Lewis handled Holyfield pretty easily.

Lewis wasn't always the best to watch in the ring but I do not think he ducked anybody and his HW resume is better than Holy's (maybe not including what Holy did at CW but Lewis could only fight in one divison).
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Joe Louis is not Eddie Chambers or David Haye. He would beat Wlad.

When talking about Wlad, the big white elephant in the room that his fans ignore, is that his resume is total dog shit. His greatest fights are against Byrd & Peter (B / C level HWs).
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:30 PM   #14
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Tyson ahead of Foreman??
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:35 PM   #15
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The best version of Tyson beats them all.

Frazier gets underrated. He's defiantly top 5.
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