Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight

Webbiano · 11-26-2012, 09:46 AM

I know this is highly subjective, but pleas be as unbiased as possible when making your picks and do consider factors outside of the actual fight.

example Johson being the first black heavyweight champion - think about how this was never considered possible for a black to challenge for the title, let alone win it. Johnson chased Tommy Burns across the world just for this fight to be made.

CrossedLine · 11-26-2012, 09:53 AM

Might be Frazier beating Ali. Might be Foreman's come back., or Tyson unifying so early in life. Good question, i enjoy this one. Curious to see if a concensus forms as it usually does on a forum like this.

Unforgiven · 11-26-2012, 09:53 AM

Probably when Tony Galento ate 50 hot dogs for a $10 bet about half an hour before getting in the ring and KOing Arthur DeKuh in 4 rounds.

Seamus · 11-26-2012, 09:58 AM

Joe Louis smashing Sonja Henie.

Webbiano · 11-26-2012, 10:02 AM

Never realised that the thread got posted before I even started the poll

CrossedLine · 11-26-2012, 10:03 AM

Tyson had all the belts at 20, no?

Webbiano · 11-26-2012, 10:04 AM

I also missed out Geroge Foreman, fuck life.

burt bienstock · 11-26-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Seamus

Joe Louis smashing Sonja Henie.

True, but below the belt don't count

McGrain · 11-26-2012, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webbiano

I also missed out Geroge Foreman, fuck life.

my pick too...

Senor Pepe' · 11-26-2012, 10:14 AM

Leon Spinks defeating Muhammad Ali,,,,,,,

An amazing feat, as Leon also had to defeat a Referee and '2' Scoring Judges,
plus a 'boat-load' of back room money men.

lufcrazy · 11-26-2012, 11:18 AM

I honestly couldn't pick one.

Gun to my head I say Louis dominating a decade but it's barely above others.

Ali cleaning out the strongest division in he history is up there. Tyson going on his rampage is up there. Lewis reunifying the titles, Sullivan ruling for a decade, Johnson clearing out his era, foreman knocking out moorer, vitali and his amazing comeback. Wlads current level of dominance is almost unprecedented.

The division is very rich in history and there's so much to impress but gun to my head I'm going Louis.

Colonel Sanders · 11-26-2012, 11:35 AM

Louis followed by Tyson for me.

janitor · 11-26-2012, 12:00 PM

Other possibilities would include:

John L Sullivan unifying the bareknuckle and gloved title claims to establish the primacy of gloved boxing.

Jack Dempsey drawing the first million dollar gate.

Joe Louis dismanteling the colour line.

George Foreman winning back the lineal title in his 40s.

Stevie G · 11-26-2012, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webbiano

I know this is highly subjective, but pleas be as unbiased as possible when making your picks and do consider factors outside of the actual fight.

example Johson being the first black heavyweight champion - think about how this was never considered possible for a black to challenge for the title, let alone win it. Johnson chased Tommy Burns across the world just for this fight to be made.

The greatest VICTORY was Ali beating Foreman.

Greatest ACHIEVEMENT was Johnson even getting the incumbent champion in the ring let alone actually winning ! The amount of racist shit around in those days was disgusting.

Unforgiven · 11-26-2012, 12:14 PM

Johnson beating little Tommy Burns wasn't that great, imo.

View Poll Results: Greatest Achievement in Heavyweight History
Jack Johnson becoming the first black Heavyweight Champion	3	3.85%
Joe Louis 25 consecutive lineal title defences	25	32.05%
Rocky Marciano retiring undefeated at 49-0	9	11.54%
Floyd Patterson becoming the youngest Heavyweight Champion and the first to regain it	0	0%
Joe Frazier winning the first fight between two undefeated Heavyweight Champions	7	8.97%
Muhammad Ali beating Big George Foreman in Zaire	22	28.21%
Larry Holmes going 48-0 and defending the lineal title 20 times	0	0%
Mike Tyson cleaning out the division at just 21 years old	7	8.97%
Evander Holyfield winning the Heavyweight title 4 times	3	3.85%
Lennox Lewis beating Vitali Klitschko in a 'passing of the torch' Fight	2	2.56%
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11-26-2012, 09:46 AM	#1
Webbiano Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: England Posts: 3,042 vCash: 500	Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight I know this is highly subjective, but pleas be as unbiased as possible when making your picks and do consider factors outside of the actual fight. example Johson being the first black heavyweight champion - think about how this was never considered possible for a black to challenge for the title, let alone win it. Johnson chased Tommy Burns across the world just for this fight to be made. Last edited by Webbiano; 11-26-2012 at 10:04 AM.
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11-26-2012, 09:53 AM	#2
CrossedLine Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 479 vCash: 500	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Might be Frazier beating Ali. Might be Foreman's come back., or Tyson unifying so early in life. Good question, i enjoy this one. Curious to see if a concensus forms as it usually does on a forum like this.
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11-26-2012, 09:53 AM	#3
Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13,141 vCash: 1000	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Probably when Tony Galento ate 50 hot dogs for a $10 bet about half an hour before getting in the ring and KOing Arthur DeKuh in 4 rounds.
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11-26-2012, 09:58 AM	#4
Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,091 vCash: 1000	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Joe Louis smashing Sonja Henie.
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11-26-2012, 10:02 AM	#5
Webbiano Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: England Posts: 3,042 vCash: 500	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Never realised that the thread got posted before I even started the poll
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11-26-2012, 10:03 AM	#6
CrossedLine Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 479 vCash: 500	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Tyson had all the belts at 20, no?
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11-26-2012, 10:04 AM	#7
Webbiano Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: England Posts: 3,042 vCash: 500	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight I also missed out Geroge Foreman, fuck life.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Leon Spinks defeating Muhammad Ali,,,,,,, An amazing feat, as Leon also had to defeat a Referee and '2' Scoring Judges, plus a 'boat-load' of back room money men.
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11-26-2012, 11:18 AM	#11
lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,711 vCash: 330	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight I honestly couldn't pick one. Gun to my head I say Louis dominating a decade but it's barely above others. Ali cleaning out the strongest division in he history is up there. Tyson going on his rampage is up there. Lewis reunifying the titles, Sullivan ruling for a decade, Johnson clearing out his era, foreman knocking out moorer, vitali and his amazing comeback. Wlads current level of dominance is almost unprecedented. The division is very rich in history and there's so much to impress but gun to my head I'm going Louis.
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11-26-2012, 11:35 AM	#12
Colonel Sanders NSB defector ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,610 vCash: 500	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Louis followed by Tyson for me.
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,046 vCash: 1000	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Other possibilities would include: John L Sullivan unifying the bareknuckle and gloved title claims to establish the primacy of gloved boxing. Jack Dempsey drawing the first million dollar gate. Joe Louis dismanteling the colour line. George Foreman winning back the lineal title in his 40s.
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Unforgiven Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13,141 vCash: 1000	Re: Greatest Achievement By a Heavyweight Johnson beating little Tommy Burns wasn't that great, imo.
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