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Old 12-06-2012, 10:09 AM   #16
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Marquez will definitely be slower with that additional weight. Pac will win this fight hands down.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:11 AM   #17
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Watch how explosive Pac will be with that comfortable weight.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:12 AM   #18
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Listen to Pacquaio hit the mitts. His power is still there.
How hard was he hitting it then, if you could tell by sound alone. Lol
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:20 AM   #19
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Pac is not using Ariza's weight training regiment. He's back to calesthenics, some pylometrics and boxing specific.

That's how it should be.


And Frekky, it seems you don't know shit about boxing and should stick to weightlifting if you think weights are necessary.

Boxing is a skill sport. It's about agility and speed. Pacquaio has natural power. He doesn't need a lot of strength to push Marquez around because if Marquez plays that game and tries to roughhouse Pacquaio, he gets Hattoned.
You dont know shit about boxing or sports in general.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:26 AM   #20
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i think pac looks fine he looks well better than he did for the bradley fight.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:31 AM   #21
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You dont know shit about boxing or sports in general.
Listen son, unless you've lifted over 1000 lbs combined with your deadlift, squat and bench, then you've never even gotten close to what I was lifting before I switched to advanced calesthenics.

Now, I'm more mobile, more fluid, and my punching power has not decreased at all.

In boxing, you need strong tendons and explosiveness. Advanced calesthenics and pylometric training does that for you.

Weight lifting is unncecessary. If anything, it cuts back on your fluidity to a certain degree.

I know you just started lifting weights and you think you know everything, but I lifted weights for over a decade, so I think I know a little bit more about weightlifting than you.

And I'm telling you, and all the young kids that are trying to get into boxing, you don't need weights.

Strength training is necessary of course if you want to be a better boxer and protect against injuries, but you can do that with advanced calesthics in combination with pylometrics for explosive training.

I knew people that could lift damn near as much weight as I did, and with some lifts like bench, more, but they were called mosquito bite punchers because they couldn't punch for shit.

In contrast, I've seen skinny kids that had very little muscle tone hit so hard that your ankles would roll.

So please, stay the **** outta boxing conversations cuz you don't know shit.

Go back to your weightlifting bullshit.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:32 AM   #22
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Soft? Really? What guy who is "Soft" has a six pack?
he has looked a bit soft in his last couple of fights, but he looks fantastic now. he does look thinner, but I see nowhere he's soft.
I think lifting weights helps with whatever sport your in. Hard to deny that weight lifting is beneficial when it seems 90% of Olympic athletes incorporate weight training now, and are shattering new records all the time.
As for Manny.. Don't think it matters that much though. He knocks out guys with blazing speed not raw power. I'm interested to see how he looks.
that's why jesse owens would have won the bronze medal this year with his crap shoes and archaic pavement in some jumping events ....
modern training and its miracles are the biggest myth ever.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:33 AM   #23
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good thread. i like the ts analysis, and appreciation for both fighters. Its how it should be in this sport.

And i agree 100%. This fight has marquez UD written all over it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:34 AM   #24
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How hard was he hitting it then, if you could tell by sound alone. Lol
Often you can tell.

I'm sorry if when you hit the bag it sounds like a thud as opposed to a bone cracking pop, but that's life.

I can't do anything for you.

I could tell by the sound that Pacquaio is hitting very explosively. He still has it. Now, perhaps his conditioning is not as good as it was in his early and late 20s, due to his age, but for the most part, he looks like the same guy.

If anything, he won't have leg problems and fluidity problems that have been plauging him when he was concentrating on too much weight lifting.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:35 AM   #25
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Any present day sport that can see guys like Rios, Morales, and Danny Garcia near the top clearly has little to do with athleticism in the final analysis and proves that tacos and tequila are just as effective as training if you have the right intangibles and the right limited skill set opponent in front of you.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:35 AM   #26
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skinny wtf
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:36 AM   #27
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People think weights are necessary for strength. Look at acrobats. When I was in Vegas, I was extremelly impressed with the athleticism expessed by Cirque De Soliel members.

Those guys are purely bodyweight and they have amazing strength and can do things with their bodies that would tear a weighliters' joints apart.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:44 AM   #28
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Doesn't look that different to here:

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A week before the Cotto fight ^^
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:57 AM   #29
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Doesn't look that different to here:

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A week before the Cotto fight ^^
He does look the same body wise but I dont no if it is just me but i think he looks that abit faster in this video then he is now.
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:01 AM   #30
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Hey Frekky, you obviously did not do boxing, just stick to weightlifting
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