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Old 12-07-2012, 06:24 AM   #61
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Default Re: Arum Says Pac Is Getting 26 Million. Juan 6

And out of that 26 million how much does Pac keep?
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:59 AM   #62
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So is the 6 million just a guaranteed minimum, plus he will get a percentage of PPV too?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:06 AM   #63
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He does'nt?

You must watch the 3rd fight, the fans in unison started singing "Cielito Lindo" in the midst of the schooling!
If thats not a loyal fanbase, I dont know what is!

Ay ay yay yay, canta y no llores........

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Whatever you just said, doesn't change the fact that Marquez, despite all the song and dance, isn't considered a property worth investing promotional money on unless he's fighting Manny Pacquiao.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:56 AM   #64
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That's not an accurate statement. JMM has a hardcore fanbase he just
doesn't have cross-over appeal brought on by an official victory over a superstar.

Coincidentally, both Pac and FLoyd shot to stardom with a win over the same guy.
Pac was already the biggest draw in boxing outside of ODLH before he and Floyd fought ODLH.

He was well on his way to becoming a superstar, what was holding him back IMO was the weight. He was breaking PPV numbers south of LW but IMO probably the biggest numbers you can achieve being a LW. IMO even if he didn't fight ODLH and still beat the same opponents thereafter, he would probably be nearly just as big as he is now. Then again, his ODLH win got the ball rolling and I dont think he would have ventured into WW in the first place were it not for that fight.

The big purses seems to come at WW+
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:24 AM   #65
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So if Juan's 6 million is such a great payday (based on a justification of 20% increase, more than he's ever made), why would Mayweather's offer not be "great" for Manny...when it would be a approximately a 33% increase, and by far his largest payday ever?
Get em!

I love how this question was conveniently ducked by all detractors.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:28 PM   #66
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Get em!

I love how this question was conveniently ducked by all detractors.
40m was not for Manny, it was TR+Pac's share. Take out Arum's, and he's making barely more than 26

I love how the answer was conveniently ducked by flo mos lacking common sense
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:36 PM   #67
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And out of that 26 million how much does Pac keep?
from dans chat. hes guaranteed 26
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:41 PM   #68
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And out of that 26 million how much does Pac keep?
"Guarantee"....meaning that's his "take home". Who ever PAC has to pay out of that is what it is.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:46 PM   #69
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So if Juan's 6 million is such a great payday (based on a justification of 20% increase, more than he's ever made), why would Mayweather's offer not be "great" for Manny...when it would be a approximately a 33% increase, and by far his largest payday ever?
Simple.....Floyd stands to make MORE than he's ever made by fighting Manny as well. BOTH men are in a position where they have equal pull in negotiations based on how many PPV buys they've produced in the fights they've had. Just because Floyd thinks $40 million withOUT ppv upside is a good deal for Manny...doesn't mean it's actually a good deal for this kind of fight. That kind of offer is one that companies make when they don't want to do business.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:49 PM   #70
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Manny has shown to draw shit without a name opponent, furthermore I don't believe this fight sells the way some anticipate. I would expect it to fall between 900k and a million, possibly just over a million.
Without a named opponent PAC still generates BIG PPV numbers. With Josh they generated over 750K in PPV buys in the US.

With Tim PAC generate just under 900K in US PPV buys....those are great numbers for being a one man show. It's similar to Floyd's numbers without having a big name for a dance partner. The ortiz fight generate around 1million in US PPV buys..
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:51 PM   #71
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Simple.....Floyd stands to make MORE than he's ever made by fighting Manny as well. BOTH men are in a position where they have equal pull in negotiations based on how many PPV buys they've produced in the fights they've had. Just because Floyd thinks $40 million withOUT ppv upside is a good deal for Manny...doesn't mean it's actually a good deal for this kind of fight. That kind of offer is one that companies make when they don't want to do business.
Yep, 26mil is the guarantee, if ppv does more, Pac gets more. In the end he could be getting over 30mil.

Posted this in another thread as to why the split between Floyd-Pac shouldnt be that huge.

The way I see it is this:

Floyd average PPV not fighting Pacquao: 1-1.4mil
Pac average PPV not fighting Floyd: 1-1.3mil

Floyd-Pac PPV: 2.5-3mil+

Basically, neither guy is gonna generate over 1.5mil buys outside of each other. When Floyd fights Pac its not gonna make 3mil PPV because Floyd is in it, it's not gonna make 3mil PPV because Pac is in it, its gonna make 3mil because BOTH are in it.

It is therefore obvious that the huge ppv buys are a result of a combined effort, not necessarily just the fans they each bring to the table but NEW fans that will watch it just because of the event, which can only happen if both are on it.

So if its a combined effort and the numbers can only be generated if both are on, why isn't the split equal, or at least close to it?
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:52 PM   #72
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Without a named opponent PAC still generates BIG PPV numbers. With Josh they generated over 750K in PPV buys in the US.

With Tim PAC generate just under 900K in US PPV buys....those are great numbers for being a one man show. It's similar to Floyd's numbers without having a big name for a dance partner. The ortiz fight generate around 1million in US PPV buys..
He outsold PBF with Pac-JMM, Pac-Mosley reportedly did 1.3mil which is similar to Floyd-Mosley when pac fought him Mosley was a lot less marketable.
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:55 PM   #73
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Yep, 26mil is the guarantee, if ppv does more, Pac gets more. In the end he could be getting over 30mil.

Posted this in another thread as to why the split between Floyd-Pac shouldnt be that huge.

The way I see it is this:

Floyd average PPV not fighting Pacquao: 1-1.4mil
Pac average PPV not fighting Floyd: 1-1.3mil

Floyd-Pac PPV: 2.5-3mil+

Basically, neither guy is gonna generate over 1.5mil buys outside of each other. When Floyd fights Pac its not gonna make 3mil PPV because Floyd is in it, it's not gonna make 3mil PPV because Pac is in it, its gonna make 3mil because BOTH are in it.

It is therefore obvious that the huge ppv buys are a result of a combined effort, not necessarily just the fans they each bring to the table but NEW fans that will watch it just because of the event, which can only happen if both are on it.

So if its a combined effort and the numbers can only be generated if both are on, why isn't the split equal, or at least close to it?
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:03 PM   #74
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wish i knew how much of that 26 mil Pac netted
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:05 PM   #75
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wish i knew how much of that 26 mil Pac netted
If he has to pay out to every single person in his entourage......He might only net half of that.
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