Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins?

Sardu · 12-06-2012, 03:04 AM

Baer was smaller but both had solid chins and were super heavy-handed. Baer's sledgehammer right against the hybrid uppercut-hook of the Razor. Both had just the right amount of sloppiness to make this an instant classic slugfest.

MAG1965 · 12-06-2012, 04:55 AM

Hard to compare fighters of these eras. I think Baer doesn't know what hit him when Ruddock lands that left hook.

RockyJim · 12-06-2012, 11:26 AM

Ruddock's chin vs Baer's BRUTAL right hand...

MrBumboclart · 12-06-2012, 11:28 AM

Baer fought tougher, stronger guys than Ruddock. He wins by KO

Bill1234 · 12-06-2012, 11:29 AM

I'd favor Ruddock. More skilled, has tons of firepower, and also has a solid chin himself.

Baer has never impressed me very much, he obviously had the huge power in the right and an iron chin and great stamina (likely in part from it not being uncommon for him to do little work in a round), but he also blatantly ignored his left hand at times, his technique was atrocious to say the least, and he was very hittable.

I'd favor Ruddock to outpoint him.

lufcrazy · 12-06-2012, 02:16 PM

Very tough.

I find it hard to bet against Baer in a brawl though.

Theron · 12-06-2012, 07:28 PM

Baer would win in a brawl but i would see it as Ruddock boxing not brawling and if that happened Ruddock would win.

Danmann · 12-07-2012, 03:06 AM

It's toss up, but Baer had title, fought better competition. But burnt out too quick, and had some bad performances in his prime. Someone said Ruddock is bigger, I don't think there was much size difference.

BUDW · 12-07-2012, 06:10 PM

Baer, When he was serious he was deadly Max by TKO

janitor · 12-07-2012, 07:19 PM

Baer was unequivocaly the better fighter if he was on form or close to it.

Otherwise, he has it in him to loose to Ruddock.

Theron · 12-08-2012, 12:32 AM

It all depends on how Baer would come into the fight in shape or out

Seamus · 12-08-2012, 01:09 AM

Great call on this match-up.

I do have to favor Baer in this one, but only slightly. When I am more sober perhaps I could elaborate more...

ripcity · 12-08-2012, 01:30 AM

At his best Madcap Maxi beats most heavyweights. This is no knock on Ruddock. He was a quility heavyweight, but at his best would not beat Bear at his best.

12-06-2012, 03:04 AM	#1
Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,638 vCash: 1000	Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Baer was smaller but both had solid chins and were super heavy-handed. Baer's sledgehammer right against the hybrid uppercut-hook of the Razor. Both had just the right amount of sloppiness to make this an instant classic slugfest.
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12-06-2012, 04:55 AM	#2
MAG1965 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas,Texas. Posts: 17,400 vCash: 1010	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Hard to compare fighters of these eras. I think Baer doesn't know what hit him when Ruddock lands that left hook.
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12-06-2012, 11:26 AM	#3
RockyJim Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,276 vCash: 1000	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Ruddock's chin vs Baer's BRUTAL right hand...
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12-06-2012, 11:28 AM	#4
MrBumboclart Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Birmingham Posts: 329 vCash: 500	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Baer fought tougher, stronger guys than Ruddock. He wins by KO
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12-06-2012, 11:29 AM	#5
Bill1234 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,006 vCash: 1000	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? I'd favor Ruddock. More skilled, has tons of firepower, and also has a solid chin himself. Baer has never impressed me very much, he obviously had the huge power in the right and an iron chin and great stamina (likely in part from it not being uncommon for him to do little work in a round), but he also blatantly ignored his left hand at times, his technique was atrocious to say the least, and he was very hittable. I'd favor Ruddock to outpoint him.
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lufcrazy requiescat in pace East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: England, Up North Posts: 22,448 vCash: 330	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Very tough. I find it hard to bet against Baer in a brawl though.
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12-06-2012, 07:28 PM	#7
Theron Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,308 vCash: 773	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Baer would win in a brawl but i would see it as Ruddock boxing not brawling and if that happened Ruddock would win.
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12-07-2012, 03:06 AM	#8
Danmann Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,111 vCash: 500	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? It's toss up, but Baer had title, fought better competition. But burnt out too quick, and had some bad performances in his prime. Someone said Ruddock is bigger, I don't think there was much size difference.
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12-07-2012, 06:10 PM	#9
BUDW Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,616 vCash: 1000	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Baer, When he was serious he was deadly Max by TKO
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12-07-2012, 07:19 PM	#10
janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,147 vCash: 1000	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Baer was unequivocaly the better fighter if he was on form or close to it. Otherwise, he has it in him to loose to Ruddock.
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12-08-2012, 12:32 AM	#11
Theron Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,308 vCash: 773	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? It all depends on how Baer would come into the fight in shape or out
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12-08-2012, 01:09 AM	#12
Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,118 vCash: 1000	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? Great call on this match-up. I do have to favor Baer in this one, but only slightly. When I am more sober perhaps I could elaborate more...
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12-08-2012, 01:30 AM	#13
ripcity Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it." Posts: 9,994 vCash: 845	Re: Max Baer (1935) vs Donovan Ruddock (1990) who wins? At his best Madcap Maxi beats most heavyweights. This is no knock on Ruddock. He was a quility heavyweight, but at his best would not beat Bear at his best.
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