Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez?

Florez · 12-06-2012, 03:20 PM

Marquez:
''I won't go for the knockout right away but if I get the opportunity for the knockout I will go for one''

Pacquiao:
''But if Marquez is so angry, then he should abandon his counter-punching style and simply stand and fight, "toe-to-toe." "I think that the things that we can change is that if he'll fight toe-to-toe, and exchanging punches, I think that he needs to do that because he's been claiming that he won the fight, and you're claiming that you won the fight, and you just back off, back off. It's not good for the people claiming that, 'Yeah, I won the fight, but in the fight, I'm always backing off, backing off, waiting for the punches of my opponent."

If they both go all out and wants to end this Rivalry, who is more likely to score a KO?

Manny Pacquiao or Juan Manuel Marquez?

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raichu · 12-06-2012, 03:32 PM

aint it 4-0 in knockdowns?

id go with pac, marquez aint knocking out shit.

if anyones getting KO'd its this guy with this punch.

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Florez · 12-06-2012, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raichu

aint it 4-0 in knockdowns?

id go with pac, marquez aint knocking out shit.

if anyones getting KO'd its this guy with this punch.

[URL]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQG3kyZkGY[/URL]

Marquez can hurt Pac but he doesn't even have the power to knock Pacquiao down once.

Scar · 12-06-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Florez

Marquez can hurt Pac but he doesn't even have the power to knock Pacquiao down once.

You might want to give Pacquiao's ability to withstand punches some credit rather than questioning Marquez' power.

Florez · 12-06-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scar

You might want to give Pacquiao's ability to withstand punches some credit rather than questioning Marquez' power.

Don't get me wrong, yeh Pacquiao does have a great chin, Since hooking up with Freddie, he has never been knocked down from what i know.

klion22 · 12-07-2012, 10:37 AM

Of course Pac. As a matter of fact, one might argue that him just letting it all hang out and going after JMM might give him a better chance of winning rather than trying to box JMM from the outside. As Beristain said once, the Pac of old was wild and reckless so they couldn't predict what he would do but this version of Pac if more polished and more easier to prepare for.

MAG1965 · 12-07-2012, 10:39 AM

manny is the variable because he is the greater and more varied fighter.

Ringnut · 12-07-2012, 10:40 AM

In all out, toe to toe fighting, no current fighter beats Pac 147 and below.

El Fijador · 12-07-2012, 10:42 AM

Pacman...

Hatesrats · 12-07-2012, 10:43 AM

It's a catch 22, Marquez goes all out & he gets caught with shots from weird angles...
Guess what happens to be Pac's strong suit??

On the other hand JMM's style thrives on being pressured.

MAG1965 · 12-07-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatesrats

It's a catch 22, Marquez goes all out & he gets caught with shots from weird angles...
Guess what happens to be Pac's strong suit??

On the other hand JMM's style thrives on being pressured.

Pacman should work on his jab and making JMM come to him. Patience. He does that he might be able to beat JMM as easily and Floyd did.

El Fijador · 12-07-2012, 10:47 AM

QUOTE=Hatesrats;14346661]It's a catch 22, Marquez goes all out & he gets caught with shots from weird angles...
Guess what happens to be Pac's strong suit??

On the other hand JMM's style thrives on being pressured.[/quote]

Marquez will win by mixing up his all out with his boxing skills as he usually does against Pac, but I couldn't see him winning with an all out toe to toe war over 12

Hatesrats · 12-07-2012, 10:51 AM

I think IF the match goes the same way the other fights have #TeamJMM will be more willing to trade late & go all out style similar to the Kats/Diaz fights. Leaving no doubt.

Ringnut · 12-07-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatesrats

It's a catch 22, Marquez goes all out & he gets caught with shots from weird angles...
Guess what happens to be Pac's strong suit??

On the other hand JMM's style thrives on being pressured.

Not really a catch 22 for JMM. If they both go all out, JMM will most likely lose, plain and simple. If JMM is more the counter puncher, then JMM has the upper hand regardless if Pac is aggressive or plays it safer like the 3rd fight.

It's a catch 22 for Pac though, I think his best chance is if he's like theaggressive Pac of old (or at least the 2nd fight). But at the same time, it leaves him open to JMM's accurate counter punching.

klion22 · 12-07-2012, 10:55 AM

Watch their 3rd fight. JMM works off of Pac's aggression 95% of the time. Had Pac not come foward, that fight would've been boring as hell. JMM is not going to take many chances. He's going to simply try to counter Pac.

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Florez Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3,270 vCash: 500	Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? Marquez: ''I won't go for the knockout* right away but if I get the opportunity for the knockout I will go for one''* Pacquiao: ''But if Marquez is so angry, then he should abandon his counter-punching style and simply stand and fight, "toe-to-toe." "I think that the things that we can change is that if he'll fight toe-to-toe, and exchanging punches, I think that he needs to do that because he's been claiming that he won the fight, and you're claiming that you won the fight, and you just back off, back off. It's not good for the people claiming that, 'Yeah, I won the fight, but in the fight, I'm always backing off, backing off, waiting for the punches of my opponent." If they both go all out and wants to end this Rivalry, who is more likely to score a KO? Manny Pacquiao or Juan Manuel Marquez? [IMG]*********.robinos.com/wp-content/pacquiao.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]******t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPNiKFUtyRWlVGGeDSmMw8h_GhXDt4Ho7Df_SKJmFF1x5HK4VnTQ[/IMG]
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12-06-2012, 03:32 PM	#2
raichu Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,064 vCash: 500	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? aint it 4-0 in knockdowns? id go with pac, marquez aint knocking out shit. if anyones getting KO'd its this guy with this punch. [ame]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQG3kyZkGY[/ame]
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klion22 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,711 vCash: 5534	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? Of course Pac. As a matter of fact, one might argue that him just letting it all hang out and going after JMM might give him a better chance of winning rather than trying to box JMM from the outside. As Beristain said once, the Pac of old was wild and reckless so they couldn't predict what he would do but this version of Pac if more polished and more easier to prepare for.
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MAG1965 P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dallas,Texas. Posts: 17,400 vCash: 1010	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? manny is the variable because he is the greater and more varied fighter.
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Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 25,579 vCash: 0	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? It's a catch 22, Marquez goes all out & he gets caught with shots from weird angles... Guess what happens to be Pac's strong suit?? On the other hand JMM's style thrives on being pressured.
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12-07-2012, 10:47 AM	#12
El Fijador ¡Aguas! Donaire ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 310 vCash: 75	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? QUOTE=Hatesrats;14346661]It's a catch 22, Marquez goes all out & he gets caught with shots from weird angles... Guess what happens to be Pac's strong suit?? On the other hand JMM's style thrives on being pressured.[/quote] Marquez will win by mixing up his all out with his boxing skills as he usually does against Pac, but I couldn't see him winning with an all out toe to toe war over 12
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Hatesrats "Al Grito De Guerra" East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 25,579 vCash: 0	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? I think IF the match goes the same way the other fights have #TeamJMM will be more willing to trade late & go all out style similar to the Kats/Diaz fights. Leaving no doubt.
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12-07-2012, 10:55 AM	#15
klion22 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,711 vCash: 5534	Re: Who is more likely to win by KO if they go all out- Pacquiao or Marquez? Watch their 3rd fight. JMM works off of Pac's aggression 95% of the time. Had Pac not come foward, that fight would've been boring as hell. JMM is not going to take many chances. He's going to simply try to counter Pac.
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