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View Poll Results: Would prime BJ have been able to defeat MacDonald?
Penn wins 10 23.81%
Edge to BJ Penn 2 4.76%
Too close to call 1 2.38%
Edge to Rory MacDonald 11 26.19%
Rory wins 18 42.86%
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:48 PM   #1
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Default Would prime BJ have beaten yesterday's version of MacDonald?

By which I mean, the Penn of the Hughes 1 fight?

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Old 12-09-2012, 07:51 PM   #2
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baby jay would **** baby hitler up
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:24 PM   #3
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Nope BJ is/was overrated.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #4
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Not at 170lbs.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:53 PM   #5
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Default Re: Would prime BJ have beaten yesterday's version of MacDonald?

No, I don't see how he could. MacDonald is too tall, and not wild enough, for BJ to exploit his edge in hand speed. That was really Penn's only chance. Penn was able to take MacDonald down, but was never able to establish control.

MacDonald is a larger man with too many skills for any version of BJ.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:06 AM   #6
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Default Re: Would prime BJ have beaten yesterday's version of MacDonald?

ive said it a thousand times, bj is just another contender at welterweight.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:40 AM   #7
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BJ is too one dimensional in his stand up game. No ****ing kicks. If he was to take advantage of his speed and make up for the reach he had to first break down macdonalds legs. He clearly didn't have a shot in the ground so I see this as his only hope even in his prime.
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Default Re: Would prime BJ have beaten yesterday's version of MacDonald?

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By which I mean, the Penn of the Hughes 1 fight?

People will argue when Penn was actually considered prime, i believe Kenny Florian was his finest hour in MMA, therefore Florian, Sanchez gets my vote!

Based on that, and based on todays Rory MaCdonald, ive got Rory!, he's evolved beyond my estimation's, and he's now actually becoming a dangerous man, too big for prime Penn (155) and too well rounded!

Look, BJ Penn has the ability to submit king kong!, but when there are too many intangibles stacked up against just that threat, you have to call a spade a spade!

MaCdonald in a thriller 29-28
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:42 AM   #9
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BJ is too one dimensional in his stand up game. No ****ing kicks. If he was to take advantage of his speed and make up for the reach he had to first break down macdonalds legs. He clearly didn't have a shot in the ground so I see this as his only hope even in his prime.
Can you repeat that please ?
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:43 AM   #10
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Nope BJ is/was overrated.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:42 AM   #11
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Default Re: Would prime BJ have beaten yesterday's version of MacDonald?

BJ is a tough man who on occassion will achieve the impossible but he is a 155 pounder who gives up huge advantages in height, reach, size, strength and power.

I thought Rory would use more wrestling but Rorys striking looks decent.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:24 AM   #12
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I dont think he would have. Find it weird he fought Machida? One thing I love about Penn wrong attitude or not he'll fight anybody. Hope he retires in good health I actually thought he would until I heard this fight announced.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:42 AM   #13
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I think the reality might be that MMA is just evolving and the same is true for Shogun, Rampage and many other former kings of MMA.

Once upon a time Rampages power used to be special, once upon a time BJJ boxing/jits used to be special, once upon a time Shoguns Muay Thai used to be special. However in this day and age the standard at which they operate is becoming common, the talent pool is getting bigger and the fighters are focusing on their training like never before.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:33 PM   #14
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baby jay would **** baby hitler up


He lost because he had nowhere near the skills that Macdonald has. Did he have more skills back then? No. The guy went 2-1 against Hughes and beat Sherk and Florian. THAT'S IT. Get his jock already.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:39 PM   #15
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No. It wouldn't have been such a blow out, but MacDonald is way too big and well rounded for any version of B.J.
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