P4P Top Ten (since the Pac/JMM IV outcome)

[eze]

You guys are dropping Pac too much.

[megavolt]

Originally Posted by eze

You guys are dropping Pac too much.

when someone gets ktfo or totally blown out the guy who lost tends to drop off the top 10.

Where was Pwill in the list after Martinez II? Nowhere to be seen. Corrales post Floyd? etc

[JMP]

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Andre Ward
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Abner Mares
8. Timothy Bradley
9. Carl Froch
10. Brian Viloria

A lack of solid competition hurts him, but I think the most dominant current fighter and best head-to-head fighter historically in their division is Wladimir Klitschko.

[qwert]

1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Donaire
4. Ward
5. Martinez
6. Pacquiao
7. Wlad
8. Bradley
9. Viloria
10. Mares

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by eze

You guys are dropping Pac too much.

I agree that i've been hard on him actually; I had him at 10, and that probably is too low. I think i'd move him to 7 or 8.

[Mordechai]

1. Floyd
2. Ward
3. Marquez
4. Donaire
5. Wlad Klitschko
6. Martinez
7. Pac Man
8. Abner Mares
9. Bradley
10. Vitali

close: Froch, Gamboa, Viloria, Broner
in the next year these guys will retire: vitali, Pac Man, Mayweather, Marquez

and golovkin will become the middleweight king and p4p star

[Hatesrats]

1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Ward

[byron87]

1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Donaire
5. Sergio
6. Wladimir
7. Pacquiao
8.Viloria
9. Vitali. K
10. Uchiyma

[vnyc]

Why people put Vitali on their p4p list , he's old and slow , he doesn't belong to p4p anymore.

[DirtyDan]

Why people putting Froch in their p4p list when Garcia has done as much as him cept for losing a near shut out by someone.
1. Floyd
2. Marquez
3. Ward
4. Martinez
5. Donaire
6. Wlad
7. Pacquaio
8. Mares
9. Vilora
10. Garcia

[Manila]

Originally Posted by Nonito Smoak

What should the P4P top ten be?

Finally it will break The Ring Magazine's ridiculous #2 tie.

Here's mine. Haven't thought too much about it until now, though:
1. Mayweather
2. Marquez
3. Donaire
4. Ward
5. Sergio
6. Wladimir
7. Pacquiao
8. Bradley
9. Vitali
10. Froch

Andre Ward should be number 1. He is in his prime, fighting the best available, and looking flawless. Having Donaire above him right now is laughable.

[Nonito Smoak]

Originally Posted by Manila

Andre Ward should be number 1. He is in his prime, fighting the best available, and looking flawless. Having Donaire above him right now is laughable.

Hardly laughable. The opposite of. It's actually razor close and I think anyone who doesn't agree has questionable judgement.

07- TKO5 Vic Darchinyan @ 112 for IBF title; RING Mag KO and Upset of 2007
08- TKO6 Moruti Mthalane @ 112
10- TKO8 Hernan Marquez @ 115
10- KO4 Wladimir Sidorenko @ 118
11- TKO2 Fernando Montiel @ 118 for WBC/WBO titles
11- UD12 Omar Narvaez @ 118
12- SD12 Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. @ 122 for vacant WBO title
12- UD12 Jeffrey Mathebula @ 122 for IBF title
12- TKO9 Toshiaki Nishioka @ 122 for RING title

VS

09- UD12 Edison Miranda @ 168
09- TD11 Mikkel Kessler @ 168 for WBA title
10- UD12 Allan Green @ 168
10- UD12 Sakio Bika @ 168
11- UD12 Arthur Abraham @ 168
11- UD12 Carl Froch @ 168 for WBC/RING titles; RING Mag Fighter of 2011
12- TKO10 Chad Dawson @ 168

[BobTheBuilder]

People who think Donaire shouldn't be near the top of the list don't know shit about people below 140

Anyway, my list-

1- Floyd Mayweather
2- Andre Ward
3- Juan Manuel Marquez
4- Nonito Donaire
5- Sergio Martinez
6- Abner Mares
7- Manny Pacquiao
8- Wladimir Klitschko
9- Carl Froch
10- Yuriorkis Gamboa

11- Robert Guerrero
12- Timothy Bradley
13- Adrien Broner
14- Brian Viloria
15- Roman Gonzalez
16- Guillermo Rigondeaux
17- Chad Dawson
18- Danny Garcia
19- Canelo Alvarez
20- Orlando Salido

[Mordechai]

Originally Posted by JMP

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Andre Ward
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Abner Mares
8. Timothy Bradley
9. Carl Froch
10. Brian Viloria

A lack of solid competition hurts him, but I think the most dominant current fighter and best head-to-head fighter historically in their division is Wladimir Klitschko.

great list, but i tend to say that froch is not a p4p top ten fighter. he is a super tough guy with great stamina, great chin and above average power, thats all. he lacks the boxing skills to be in the p4p top 10.

wladimir is the most dominant fighter that we have seen since roy jones jr in his prime. and he beat some very good opponent (byrd, peter 1, ibragimov, chagaev and haye, 4 of them were also great amateurs)

[SugarShane_24]

I'll be honest with you guys.

IMO, that brutal and so definite a loss should remove him out the list completely and then evaluate his standing in his next fight proving there would be a next one against a decent high class opponent and if he indeed wins.