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Old 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM   #1
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Default Do you think JMM was on something?

I'm not here to degrade JMM. I'm just asking an honest question. Given the circumstances, what do you think?
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:26 AM   #2
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No.

I've done a lot of training in my life and have a contacts who were very high-level athletes. I know something about lifting weights and conditioning.

Here's what probably happened with Marquez:

When you first start to train properly, with weights and nutrition, you make HUGE gains. Enormous gains. That is what happened with Marquez. He finally started to train the right way.

This is what happened with Pac when he began his work with Ariza. It wasn't "Manny PED," it was "Manny with real nutrition and weight work."

Then, after that initial 'gain' phase, your improvements level off. That is where Pac is now.

But JMM was at the 'initial gains' phase, and he gained enough to be able to do what he did against Pac on Saturday.

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Old 12-10-2012, 10:29 AM   #3
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No. Hats off to him, he won that shit on courage and skill. Marquez is a warrior through and through. Gotta give respect, he deserves it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:30 AM   #4
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Potentially.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:32 AM   #5
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Default Re: Do you think JMM was on something?

He may be. Any fighter could be on them. It wouldn't surprise me if both guys in that ring were roided up but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt just like I have with Pac when he was doing amazing things in the ring.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:32 AM   #6
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Probably not, but I don't find it to be relevent. His punches had superb technique to put Pac down and out, and he felt everything Pac hit him with so it's not like he walked through the shots. Pac could have been on something and that shot would have still KOed him.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:32 AM   #7
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No, only Pactards do.

Which is ironic.

Its also sad how they are blaming Pacs loss on having his toe stepped on.

Strange bunch they are.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:32 AM   #8
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No.

I've done a lot of training in my life and have a contacts who were very high-level athlets. I know something about lifting weights and conditioning.

Here's what probably happened with Marquez:

When you first start to train properly, with weights and nutrition, you make HUGE gains. Enormous gains. That is what happened with Marquez. He finally started to train the right way.

This is what happened with Pac when he began his work with Ariza. It wasn't "Manny PED," it was "Manny with real nutrition and weight work."

Then, after that initial 'gain' phase, your improvements level off. That is where Pac is now.

But JMM was at the 'initial gains' phase, and he gained enough to be able to do what he did against Pac on Saturday.
That's plausible if it's true that JMM didn't do any type of strength conditioning prior to getting his new fitness guy.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:35 AM   #9
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No. Marquez treats his body like a damn shrine. That's the reason why he's still in this game.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:36 AM   #10
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Looking at the facts, I do "think" so. I think a whole lot of boxers who haven't been caught yet have been or still are on PEDs. I think last year was just the tip of the iceberg. But innocent until proven guilty so I leave it to the testing parameters that the fighters themselves agree to.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:36 AM   #11
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It's plausible but any rumour isn't worth shit without evidence in my opinion. If you're spreading shit without evidence than you're not doing anything else but talking shit.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:37 AM   #12
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But I will say, we have definitely crossed that line in the past few years. Many bold accusations, many more athletes getting caught. I would normally be disgusted at an accusation but anything is plausible at the moment.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:38 AM   #13
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No, only Pactards do.
That's not true.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:38 AM   #14
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NO.

Just like Hopkins wasn't on something when he beat Pascal.
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Old 12-10-2012, 10:39 AM   #15
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Default Re: Do you think JMM was on something?

He was on the best nutrition deemed legal in 2012.
Does that make you feel better now???

Ariza should have been allowed to work w/Pac closer.
Roach dropped the ball by thinking going back to the roots was going to work.
Juan came back with some "back to the future shit"

Piss, Hyperbolic chamber, cups ect...
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