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Old 12-09-2012, 11:21 PM   #1
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I dont understand how that could be shocking. Marquez had a strenght coach, an educated one, one with credentials, and that's what happens when you follow your guy's program. We didn't do any of that. We quit.

It's not shocking to me. That's what happens for three months when you get up at 4:30 in the morning, you do your strenght and conditioning, you eat right, you train right, you focus on that, and that's what he did. Look at the way Marquez was lifting, the way he was training. You know, short explosive burts. Three, four, five repetitions. And it's like I said, he's training to throw four, five - three, four, five hard shots, and then out, and then rest. His power punches matched Manny's power punches. He had more power punches than Manny.


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Old 12-09-2012, 11:24 PM   #2
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u r the poster of the year. fug it, i already voted for ya. another ped expert commending another ped expert and u r applauding it. way to go, chico
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:26 PM   #3
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u r the poster of the year. fug it, i already voted for ya. another ped expert commending another ped expert and u r applauding it. way to go, chico

Ariza's opinion on the matter is worthy of discussion.

Your opinion on it isn't.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:10 AM   #4
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Great thread bro, shitting on these pactards. Marquez got an angel 3 months before part 3 and has joined team Marquez now for more then a year Marquez isn't a part time boxer like pacquiao and because of all this no one shocked id like to see Pac go back to full time boxing, 33 is very young but unfortunately he was ktfo in a fashion it is very hard to come back from so he may very well be finished at the elite level specially if he wants to do boxing part time.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:13 AM   #5
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Ariza's opinion on the matter is worthy of discussion.

Your opinion on it isn't.
says a ped lover LOL
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:23 AM   #6
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I think what he was saying that conditioning training works in boxing. Proof is in the pudding.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:25 AM   #7
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Funnily enough I thought Manny looked better than any performance for the last 2 years, much looser and more free flowing with his attacks. He was catching Marquez for more then a year ago. Conversely Marquez was a bit stiff and slow. Marquez did look more powerful and once he caught him like that it was game over, but he was struggling to win rounds.


Ofcourse Ariza will say Pacman looked far worse and poorly conditioned, he is a self publicist and trying to sell his own work. I think it was more just a case or Pacman being outthought by the more concentrated Marquez who waited for his moment and times it to perfection. Nothing to do with some core exercises or whatever.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:26 AM   #8
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Pac got destroyed by a monster right hand. No steroids about it. You just can't walk into lunging right hands and expect to be okay.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:29 AM   #9
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Jam's power in this fight is amazing. I night hire a trainer to lose weight.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:29 AM   #10
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Pac got destroyed by a monster right hand. No steroids about it. You just can't walk into lunging right hands and expect to be okay.

Exactly, Pac style is catered for a counter puncher. This is why i always pick Mayweather to beat Pac!
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:30 AM   #11
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While the strength training improved his power having all boxers repeat the same thing is not a recipe for success. Marquez looked the worst he had balance and speed wise he did in the entire series. Pacquiao was thumping him pretty good. Wont work against every fighter especially if the fight goes longer where the extra bulk will be a hindrance
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:32 AM   #12
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Basically this comment was directed at Manny...translation, "had you put in that kind of work he did, you wouldn't have got KTFO".
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Basically this comment was directed at Manny...translation, "had you put in that kind of work he did, you wouldn't have got KTFO".
+1 thats what i got when i read it.
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Pac got destroyed by a monster right hand. No steroids about it. You just can't walk into lunging right hands and expect to be okay.



Exactly, Jmm landed this exact same punch with ease in the 3rd fight. Now imagine the exact same punch again this time but with more power, it was bound to happen. Jmm is just a smarter and superior fighter than Pac.
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